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Why do people complain about Mega Mawile's Sucker Punch being "too strong"?

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1 year ago#11
CakeOfLies posted...
Lord_Chivalry posted...
CakeOfLies posted...
gamemaster712 posted...
So it can sword dance and play rough...
Yay.


No. It uses Sucker Punch, but fails.


If you have WOW you can neuter it.


If you use WOW, it just wrecks you with Play Rough after you miss.


IF you miss.
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1 year ago#12
Windyligth posted...
zelionx posted...
Why do people complain about it being too weak?

It is perfectly fine the way it is. It doesn't need +2 priority


Because Talonflame beats it, and that is beyond r*****ed.


Not really
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1 year ago#13
Lord_Chivalry posted...
CakeOfLies posted...
Lord_Chivalry posted...
CakeOfLies posted...
gamemaster712 posted...
So it can sword dance and play rough...
Yay.


No. It uses Sucker Punch, but fails.


If you have WOW you can neuter it.


If you use WOW, it just wrecks you with Play Rough after you miss.


IF you miss.


It's only 85% accurate. You WILL miss.

That's like 15% accurate as far as the game is concerned.
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1 year ago#14
The whole idea of SP is that if (AND ONLY IF) you attack me, I get to hit you first. Like, you know, an actual sucker punch. Hit you when you don't expect it.

Stuff like fast priority users (and there's a good bit in this gen) will hit you first just on technicality, and that's stupid.
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1 year ago#15
Windyligth posted...
The whole idea of SP is that if (AND ONLY IF) you attack me, I get to hit you first. Like, you know, an actual sucker punch. Hit you when you don't expect it.

Stuff like fast priority users (and there's a good bit in this gen) will hit you first just on technicality, and that's stupid.


The whole point of a sucker punch is that you throw a cheap shot before the opponent gets a chance to attack. If the opponent uses an attack with priority, the cheap shot is thrown too late and it doesn't work
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1 year ago#16
My Rhydon can take a Sucker Punch from a Mega Mawile after it used Swords Dance with no problem. Yeah, Mega Mawile's Sucker Punch is not really an issue for me.
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1 year ago#17
zelionx posted...
Windyligth posted...
The whole idea of SP is that if (AND ONLY IF) you attack me, I get to hit you first. Like, you know, an actual sucker punch. Hit you when you don't expect it.

Stuff like fast priority users (and there's a good bit in this gen) will hit you first just on technicality, and that's stupid.


The whole point of a sucker punch is that you throw a cheap shot before the opponent gets a chance to attack. If the opponent uses an attack with priority, the cheap shot is thrown too late and it doesn't work


And that's why SP should hit before a Talon BB. Instead, it's the other way around. Brave Bird has become the cheap shot, hitting me before I can attack. I think most players would agree with me, that that is what Brave Bird has become.
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1 year ago#18
Windyligth posted...
zelionx posted...
Windyligth posted...
The whole idea of SP is that if (AND ONLY IF) you attack me, I get to hit you first. Like, you know, an actual sucker punch. Hit you when you don't expect it.

Stuff like fast priority users (and there's a good bit in this gen) will hit you first just on technicality, and that's stupid.


The whole point of a sucker punch is that you throw a cheap shot before the opponent gets a chance to attack. If the opponent uses an attack with priority, the cheap shot is thrown too late and it doesn't work


And that's why SP should hit before a Talon BB. Instead, it's the other way around. Brave Bird has become the cheap shot, hitting me before I can attack. I think most players would agree with me, that that is what Brave Bird has become.


You know, there are many ways to deal with talonflame without buffing a move that doesn't need to be buffed. It's not that hard
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1 year ago#19
Missingno_Mastr posted...
My Rhydon can take a Sucker Punch from a Mega Mawile after it used Swords Dance with no problem. Yeah, Mega Mawile's Sucker Punch is not really an issue for me.


Exactly. Sucker Punch is not an issue for pretty much everyone. No one's about to clutch the game with a Quick Attack hitting that Toxicroak first.
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1 year ago#20
zelionx posted...
You know, there are many ways to deal with talonflame without buffing a move that doesn't need to be buffed. It's not that hard


You're preaching to the choir. People act like Talon is Bird Jesus, but a rock move easily stops it. Plus that Chairizard syndrome.

The idea is that stuff like that shouldn't happen though.
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