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What are good counters for Charizard X?

#21darkdragonflamePosted 7/13/2014 9:16:26 AM
MyNameIsGibson posted...
darkdragonflame posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
Loremas1861 posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
Garchomp. Garchomp is the perfect counter. EQ, Outrage, Rock Slide, and Dragon Claw are all effective moves for it.


Garchomp is a check.
If Chomp isn't Scarfed, a +1 Zard X will always outspeed.


I don't run my Garchomp for speed, so I don't bother to outspeed Charizard X.


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+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 584-690 (139 - 164.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(584, 590, 600, 606, 612, 620, 626, 632, 638, 648, 654, 660, 668, 674, 680, 690)

Oh but no one runs outrage because fairies.

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 390-458 (92.8 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
(390, 392, 398, 402, 408, 410, 416, 420, 426, 428, 434, 438, 444, 446, 452, 458)

Fully bulk invested Garchomp can't take a hit from MegaZard X. I don't see the logic here


That is what I mean.
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#22Gogito4Posted 7/13/2014 9:17:32 AM
MyNameIsGibson posted...
darkdragonflame posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
Loremas1861 posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
Garchomp. Garchomp is the perfect counter. EQ, Outrage, Rock Slide, and Dragon Claw are all effective moves for it.


Garchomp is a check.
If Chomp isn't Scarfed, a +1 Zard X will always outspeed.


I don't run my Garchomp for speed, so I don't bother to outspeed Charizard X.


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+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 584-690 (139 - 164.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(584, 590, 600, 606, 612, 620, 626, 632, 638, 648, 654, 660, 668, 674, 680, 690)

"Oh but no one runs outrage because fairies."

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 390-458 (92.8 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
(390, 392, 398, 402, 408, 410, 416, 420, 426, 428, 434, 438, 444, 446, 452, 458)

Fully bulk invested Garchomp can't take a hit from MegaZard X. I don't see the logic here


Basically this.
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#23MyNameIsGibsonPosted 7/13/2014 9:19:00 AM
Even 252/252+ Mega Garchomp gets OHKO'd by Outrage and 2HKO'd by Dragon Claw at +1. Scarfchomp can revenge kill but it's nowhere near a Counter
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#24JudgmenlPosted 7/13/2014 9:43:32 AM
Oh whait, I forgot people don't care about T2 pokemon like Mega Gyarados.
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#25spooky96Posted 7/13/2014 9:50:30 AM
Gunsandredroses posted...
Loremas1861 posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
Garchomp. Garchomp is the perfect counter. EQ, Outrage, Rock Slide, and Dragon Claw are all effective moves for it.


Garchomp is a check.
If Chomp isn't Scarfed, a +1 Zard X will always outspeed.


I don't run my Garchomp for speed, so I don't bother to outspeed Charizard X.


so what're you smoking?
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#26yveltianknight9Posted 7/15/2014 9:20:53 AM
i use a mega charazars so i know how it gets taken down. hint if your opponent is running flame charge on X. normaly a weak move yea, WRONG. stab+tough claws+ tons of hurt, even more it you have harsh sunlight. but as for how to take the down,rock tomb to slow them down(in y's case knok down) and like said before earthquake, but i've learned not to rely to heavily on that move as there are plenty of ways around it and too few stab recipiants who actually use it.
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