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Getting hacked pokemon into X and Y!

#41ChapFromKrugisPosted 7/16/2014 7:45:06 PMmessage detail
FireMage7777 posted...
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Sorry, you're not more important than the community or the industry. Check your entitlement and ego at the door


In my mind I am, and that's what matters. Oh, and get that Tumblr speak out of here, buck-o.


In your mind is irrelevant, and therefore can't matter. Again, drop your entitlement and ego at the door, troll


Irrelevant to you, maybe, but why would I care what inferior beings think? I'm representing the true desires of humanity, just on a smaller scale.


No irrelevant objectively, and we are all inferior to objectivity. Again, drop your entitlement and ego at the door, troll


Hey, don't get mad at me. Something like cheating in a video game is just a small-scale representation of mankind's desires and its destiny. We all want to be the strongest, to go the farthest, to climb the highest, no matter who we have to step on in the process.
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#42rojsePosted 7/16/2014 7:48:04 PMmessage detail
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I have been leveling up this Pupitar all day long.


You do Le Wow rotation with Lucky Egg and Exp. Boost Level 3 right?
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#43FireMage7777Posted 7/16/2014 7:50:36 PMmessage detail
And I'm telling you that you need to drop your entitlement and ego at the door, as your needs and desires aren't more important than the needs and desires of the industry or community
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#44ChapFromKrugisPosted 7/16/2014 7:51:15 PMmessage detail
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And I'm telling you that you need to drop your entitlement and ego at the door, as your needs and desires aren't more important than the needs and desires of the industry or community


They are if I say they are.
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#45Inferno05Posted 7/16/2014 7:52:26 PMmessage detail
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Still irrelevant as fun is subjective. Even more so when cheating hurts gaming


Cheating can only hurt competitive gaming, and even then it can only hurt when the cheat device/program is used at the competition. Hacked mon (while not allowed) don't hurt VGC when they pass the checks since they're the same in every functional way as the legit thing. The cheating was done in preparation. And please don't go to a steroid analogy, it's laughably erroneous in the realm of legal hacks,

Cheating in single-player games hurts neither the community (how would they even know if you don't tell them) nor the industry (they're paying attention to sales, not what we're doing to our cartridges)
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#46FireMage7777Posted 7/16/2014 7:52:40 PMmessage detail
ChapFromKrugis posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
And I'm telling you that you need to drop your entitlement and ego at the door, as your needs and desires aren't more important than the needs and desires of the industry or community


They are if I say they are.


No, they aren't
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#47ChapFromKrugisPosted 7/16/2014 7:53:46 PMmessage detail
FireMage7777 posted...
ChapFromKrugis posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
And I'm telling you that you need to drop your entitlement and ego at the door, as your needs and desires aren't more important than the needs and desires of the industry or community


They are if I say they are.


No, they aren't


Yuh-huh.
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#48FireMage7777Posted 7/16/2014 7:53:47 PMmessage detail
Inferno05 posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Still irrelevant as fun is subjective. Even more so when cheating hurts gaming


Cheating can only hurt competitive gaming, and even then it can only hurt when the cheat device/program is used at the competition. Hacked mon (while not allowed) don't hurt VGC when they pass the checks since they're the same in every functional way as the legit thing. The cheating was done in preparation. And please don't go to a steroid analogy, it's laughably erroneous in the realm of legal hacks,

Cheating in single-player games hurts neither the community (how would they even know if you don't tell them) nor the industry (they're paying attention to sales, not what we're doing to our cartridges)


I already told you how it does. Hurts the battle scene, trade scene, promotes casualization. You are wrong, end of story
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#49FireMage7777Posted 7/16/2014 7:55:48 PMmessage detail
ChapFromKrugis posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
ChapFromKrugis posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
And I'm telling you that you need to drop your entitlement and ego at the door, as your needs and desires aren't more important than the needs and desires of the industry or community


They are if I say they are.


No, they aren't


Yuh-huh.


If they are, surely you could prove it then, t-cup
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#50Inferno05Posted 7/16/2014 8:04:49 PMmessage detail
FireMage7777 posted...
Inferno05 posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Still irrelevant as fun is subjective. Even more so when cheating hurts gaming


Cheating can only hurt competitive gaming, and even then it can only hurt when the cheat device/program is used at the competition. Hacked mon (while not allowed) don't hurt VGC when they pass the checks since they're the same in every functional way as the legit thing. The cheating was done in preparation. And please don't go to a steroid analogy, it's laughably erroneous in the realm of legal hacks,

Cheating in single-player games hurts neither the community (how would they even know if you don't tell them) nor the industry (they're paying attention to sales, not what we're doing to our cartridges)


I already told you how it does. Hurts the battle scene, trade scene, promotes casualization. You are wrong, end of story


So it hurts the battle scene by pitting perfect mon against other perfect mon? You know what else does that? Competitive battling in general. All legal hacks could've done is speed up the rate at which perfect IVs became the norm, which would happen anyway due to the nature of competitive gaming. Try that point again by bring something that legal hacks can do and regular Mon can't.

As for the trade scene, that's pure opinion. I for one like the free trading of Gen'd and Powersaved mon, let everyone have what they want. It creates a more diverse meta where every trainer has all the same tools to choose from. In fact, that's a requirement for good game balancing: All the same tools, no barrier to your choices beyond what is possible within the game's boundaries. Ruined implies bad, and both good and bad or opinion, thereby subjective. Try again.

I already explained that cheats can't promote casualization in the industry because cheats are used for a wide variety of purposes that the game developers can't know about. Cheating doesn't show them that it's too hard, it shows them they did something wrong at the design level. For instance, if GF had seen us cheating to see EVs and IVs sooner we might have IVs and EVs even more visible than they are now (which would be improving the games, so that competitive players could get their information from the game and not have to hack it first). One more try good sir trolls-a-lot?
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