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What counters Xerneas?

#21AlphanumericPosted 7/26/2014 5:13:47 PM
Judgmenl posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Aegislash


No it doesn't.
252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 81-96 (25 - 29.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO


??? it 4HKOs aegi but aegi isn't a counter ?_?

meanwhile

252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Gyro Ball (52 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 218-258 (47.8 - 56.5%) -- 82.8% chance to 2HKO
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#22jamstaere08Posted 7/26/2014 5:14:41 PM
Slayerblade11 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Poison Arceus


+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Poison: 195-231 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO


It phases it out, wasting the Power Herb and recovers the damage off.


you're gonna need to sack to phase a +2 xerneas, nothing switches in and isn't potentially 2hko'd
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#23Slayerblade11Posted 7/26/2014 5:34:04 PM(edited)
jamstaere08 posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Poison Arceus


+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Poison: 195-231 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO


It phases it out, wasting the Power Herb and recovers the damage off.


you're gonna need to sack to phase a +2 xerneas, nothing switches in and isn't potentially 2hko'd


Not really. Poison Arceus switches it in on the turn that it uses Geo, lives any hit and phases it out.
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#24jamstaere08Posted 7/26/2014 5:40:07 PM
Slayerblade11 posted...
jamstaere08 posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Poison Arceus


+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Poison: 195-231 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO


It phases it out, wasting the Power Herb and recovers the damage off.


you're gonna need to sack to phase a +2 xerneas, nothing switches in and isn't potentially 2hko'd


Not really. Poison Arceus switches it in on the turn that it uses Geo, lives any hit and phases it out.


suppose so. i thought we were assuming it'd already set up
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#25TropiOUsPosted 7/26/2014 5:42:50 PM
_LayzieBone_ posted...
Belly Drum Slurpuff


he said xerneas not mega kanga
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#26ZetachiDeQuesPosted 7/26/2014 5:48:49 PM
Judgmenl posted...
252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 80 SpD Multiscale Lugia: 75-88 (18 - 21.1%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

I think we have a winner.

Now I need to fit in a Lugia counter.


Try with rocks up or even a followup with +2 Xern thunder. Lugia dies.
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#27Alpha218Posted 7/26/2014 5:54:07 PM
jamstaere08 posted...
suppose so. i thought we were assuming it'd already set up


You can't intentionally counter it without knowing what it does

If you're not dumb you switch it in instead of sacking something else to get it in because chances are it's going to be running the Geoherb set
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#28Grammar_TerrorPosted 7/27/2014 7:25:04 PM
The physical set has night slash, so Aegislash can be a shaky counter against the choice banded xerneas sets.
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#29SaintZetsuPosted 7/27/2014 7:25:58 PM
Steels in general, phasers, Chansey/Blissey.
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