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User Info: GGuitarGuy95

GGuitarGuy95
2 years ago#1
Smogon basically tries to remove luck base stuff like OHKO, Moody, and Evasion. Why don't they add Item Clause to make the game more skilled base.

User Info: wolf rider

wolf rider
2 years ago#2
The official line is that "items themselves don't ovah-centralize dah meta".

The real reason is that stall teams need lefties for everyone.
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User Info: rojse

rojse
2 years ago#3
wolf rider posted...
The official line is that "items themselves don't ovah-centralize dah meta".

The real reason is that stall teams need lefties for everyone.


And offensive teams use multiple pokemon with Choice Band/Scarf/Specs and Life Orb. I don't get your point.
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User Info: Octaz

Octaz
2 years ago#4
wolf rider posted...
The official line is that "items themselves don't ovah-centralize dah meta".

The real reason is that stall teams need lefties for everyone.


the most standard-ass stall team in the world adheres to item clause

Quagsire (Leftovers)
Chansey (Eviolite)
Skarmory (Rocky Helmet)
Amoonguss (Black Sludge)
Charizard X (Charizardite X)
Gliscor (Toxic Orb)

stall teams that break item clause are actually deviating from the norm and experimenting, go figure
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User Info: Arcasaurus

Arcasaurus
2 years ago#5
Agreed. Flat Rules > Normal Rules > No Restrictions

User Info: GGuitarGuy95

GGuitarGuy95
2 years ago#6
Also I keep on reading about how Smogon "loves stall".I always thought that Smogon favors HO Offensive over Stall.

User Info: rojse

rojse
2 years ago#7
GGuitarGuy95 posted...
Also I keep on reading about how Smogon "loves stall".I always thought that Smogon favors HO Offensive over Stall.


Here's how that works:

If they don't like Smogon, people that hate stall say Smogon loves stall.

If they don't like Smogon, people that love stall say Smogon hates stall.

No, don't ask me how that works.
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User Info: Latias007

Latias007
2 years ago#8
It would be nice since it would force the metagame to have more balanced teams, but it limits teambuilding too much in a Singles format because it makes it so that pretty much every stall team needs to carry an Eviolite and Black Sludge. In Doubles it's completely fine though because there is no such thing as a good hyper offensive or stall team, in comparison to the Singles format.
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User Info: FinalInsanity

FinalInsanity
2 years ago#9
but it would promote diversity in items, such as Sitrus Berry, Spooky Plate, Sticky Barb, Expert Belt, Sharp Beak, Discount Coupon, Iron Ball, Eject Button

the list goes on man! all these items, unused due to the filthy Choice menace!

User Info: ThornAernought

ThornAernought
2 years ago#10
Diversity in items is a good thing.
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