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Which is better on Talonflame?

#1megasean3000Posted 8/18/2014 6:22:54 AM
Acrobatics or Brave Bird?

Acrobatics does 110 damage without an item attached. Brave Bird does 120 damage but does recoil damage. Which is better? Good damage or better damage with the drawback of recoil?
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#2Lonta_Beans3Posted 8/18/2014 6:24:29 AM
Both are bad because Talonflame is bad.
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#3MegaRyanPosted 8/18/2014 6:31:23 AM
I go adamant max attack and hp brave bird. Max damage is my preference plus priority roost when/if you get the chance lets it drop a few more brave birds.. I haven't used acrobatics but I imagine it can be just fine too
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#4Chaosmaster00Posted 8/18/2014 6:36:15 AM
Acrobatics is automatically bad ebcause you can't use it with Life Orb or Choice Band like Brave Bird. Maybe if you're running a gimmicky Nature's Gift set after you use up your berry, but otherwise, lolno. Brave Bird it up.
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#5celticpride6Posted 8/18/2014 6:36:56 AM
Brave Bird allows you to use items, most notably Choice Band:

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 312-367 (48.5 - 57.1%) -- 93.4% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Talonflame Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 190-225 (29.5 - 35%) -- 15.3% chance to 3HKO

You lose considerable damage, but you would have the freedom to switch moves and no recoil. Your call.
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#6SkyLeyPosted 8/18/2014 6:42:02 AM
Fly with Power Herb.
#7DimlhugionaPosted 8/18/2014 6:42:41 AM
Brave Bird + Choice Band + Gale Wings + 252 atk / 252 spd (to outrun other derpflames) + Adamant nature. Enjoy your derp wins until the 1600's where people run derpflame counters.
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#8Spectrum_RePosted 8/18/2014 6:43:13 AM
Lonta_Beans3 posted...
Both are bad because Talonflame is bad.

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#9ZeldaTPLinkPosted 8/18/2014 6:50:02 AM
Brave Bird with Choice Band is 180.
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#10CMReuniPosted 8/18/2014 7:09:01 AM
Kalos lacks Flying Gem so go with Brave Bird.