PSA: Coins are NOT added to your tally the second you grab them.

#21Cosmic_CoyotePosted 6/3/2014 7:26:45 AM
RatheV posted...
This is incorrect for a simple reason.

Upon starting a new file, you can unlock the part for getting 50 coins after a single Grand Prix.


THIS

I am pretty sure I unlocked a car part by finishing my first grand prix, which menas I somehow got 50 coins in 4 races.
---
"There is no knowledge that is not power"
#22Steven-Chase(Topic Creator)Posted 6/3/2014 7:30:04 AM
Cosmic_Coyote posted...
RatheV posted...
This is incorrect for a simple reason.

Upon starting a new file, you can unlock the part for getting 50 coins after a single Grand Prix.


THIS

I am pretty sure I unlocked a car part by finishing my first grand prix, which menas I somehow got 50 coins in 4 races.

I don't recall unlocking a part on my first GP, so I really can't comment on this.

But, I will say that, since we can't see our coin tally, it's entirely possible that we don't start at 0 coins... In fact, Mario Tennis Open didn't start you at 0, actually.

So... It's not completely out of the realm of possibility that MK8 starts you at 10 coins or more.
---
http://www.steven-chase.com
http://www.megamanmonthly.com
#23Steven-Chase(Topic Creator)Posted 6/3/2014 7:30:40 AM
But I will say this to everyone who is pointing to something like this as definitive proof that coins are earned instantly...

Go try and grind for them then.

Because it doesn't work.
---
http://www.steven-chase.com
http://www.megamanmonthly.com
#24Xerneas1Posted 6/3/2014 7:43:17 AM
Cosmic_Coyote posted...
RatheV posted...
This is incorrect for a simple reason.

Upon starting a new file, you can unlock the part for getting 50 coins after a single Grand Prix.


THIS

I am pretty sure I unlocked a car part by finishing my first grand prix, which menas I somehow got 50 coins in 4 races.


i also unlocked a new car part after MY FIRST grand prix so it was my first time playing
---
R.I.P BurnedPotatoes
#25Steven-Chase(Topic Creator)Posted 6/3/2014 11:05:56 AM
Again, guys... There are a lot of factors that could be at play here, but what I can say with 100% certainty is that the blanket statement that they are acquired the second you grab them is NOT TRUE.

Because if they were, do you realize how fast you would unlock parts? It's a breeze to get more than 10 coins in a single lap of a race. Think about how often you get the coin item in first place. I could easily come into contact with 50 coins in a single race. By that logic, I should be unlocking 4 parts every GP, 2 after breaching 1,000. A single night of local 4-player play and you'd have the Gold Glider (20,000 coins). Sit and do the math.

And again, we have been experimenting with coin grinding, and it simply DOESN'T work.

There are several things that could be misleading you into THINKING you're unlocking parts faster than 40 coins per GP, all of which have been mentioned on this thread and I'm not going to be bothered to retype.

And, it's also possible there are factors at play that are beyond what we're all theorizing. Maybe they ARE collected immediately upon grabbing them, but not always, and maybe there's a cap. For example, maybe you can't pick up the same coin twice (i.e., if you drop it and pick it back up, it doesn't count twice), maybe you can never get more than one coin from a single spawn point, etc. Maybe you can only bring back a max of 10 in Time Trial, but a max of 20 in a GP race, etc. It could be variable and complex to make grinding less of a chore but to also prevent exploiting it by, say... camping at a coin respawn spot for 10 minutes.

But, with 100% certainty, you are not getting to keep every single coin you touch the second you touch it, because mathematically, you would have way more parts than you do.

So do more than skim the first post in this thread and reply, "well, I unlocked two parts between two GPs, so you're wrong."

Read the rest of the thread, because this was addressed, and actually go out there and experiment and try to grind for coins like I did and like others have, because it won't work.

I'm going to try a couple more things to try and see if there is any kind of weird mechanic at play. We tried camping at coin respawn points on Versus and got nothing beyond the 10 per player per race. I'm going to try doing the same in GP, intentionally letting everyone else finish the race while I camp at a coin respawn point and just wait.

I'm also thinking it's possible that maybe coins ARE added immediately after you touch them, but stop being added if you have 10 coins, so that way, if you drop some, you can potentially earn more than 10 per race. So I may set up a human versus human race, camp at a coin spot, get 10 coins, have the other player hit me with something, then refill my coins, repeat.
---
http://www.steven-chase.com
http://www.megamanmonthly.com
#26Shad0wg00nPosted 6/3/2014 11:07:49 AM
10,000 coins for gold glider, not 20,000 like in OP.
#27Steven-Chase(Topic Creator)Posted 6/3/2014 11:10:53 AM
My fault. Thank you.
---
http://www.steven-chase.com
http://www.megamanmonthly.com
#28FrankulaPosted 6/3/2014 11:13:42 AM(edited)
TC you are wrong about not being able to get more than 40 per grand prix, i KNOW you can get more than 40 because I unlocked parts during EVERY SINGLE cup up till parts started becoming more than 50 coins apart.

I think the mechanic works like this:

If you have 10 coins any coin you gain aftewards goes directly into a "wallet" or "bank". If you have less than 10 coins it goes to your coin count for that race as normal. Thus when you get hit at 10 coins the coins you gain aftewards do not go to the wallet/bank, but rather your normal coin count.

Then any coins you have in your coin count at the end of the race are added to the bank.

For example, say you are doing a race and collect 10 coins. Then you collect 3 more coins while you coin count is full. This puts 3 in the bank. The race then ends and you get 10 more coins in the bank, making your profit 13 coins for that race.

In this way any coins you lose from being hit are infact lost. The only coins that are safe are ones you collected while already at 10 coins.
---
3DS FC: 5198-2436-3573
PS4: AtomKick
#29FFMaster1212Posted 6/3/2014 11:13:01 AM
Solid2TheSnake posted...
I thought the Golden Glider took 10K to unlock, not 20K.

Either way, thank you for confirming. This weekend we collected 4K coins simply from playing multiplayer for hours upon hours. I have no doubt that we'll unlock the gold glider in no time just from normal play.


I heard 10k ALSO
---
accf 1721-5215-5431 name:Aaron town:homely;
3ds friend code:1590-4706-8328
#30Steven-Chase(Topic Creator)Posted 6/3/2014 11:16:34 AM
Frankula posted...
TC you are wrong about not being able to get more than 40 per grand prix, i KNOW you can get more than 40 because I unlocked parts during EVERY SINGLE cup up till parts started becoming more than 50 coins apart.

Seriously. Read the rest of the thread. There are possible explanations for this, and I truly believe it is a misconception players are having.

I think the mechanic works like this:

If you have 10 coins any coin you gain aftewards goes directly into a "wallet" or "bank". If you have less than 10 coins it goes to your coin count for that race as normal. Thus when you get hit at 10 coins the coins you gain aftewards do not go to the wallet/bank, but rather your normal coin count.

Then any coins you have in your coin count at the end of the race are added to the bank.

For example, say you are doing a race and collect 10 coins. Then you collect 3 more coins while you coin count is full. This puts 3 in the bank. The race then ends and you get 10 more coins in the bank, making your profit 13 coins for that race.

In this way any coins you lose from being hit are infact lost. The only coins that are safe are ones you collected while already at 10 coins.

This wouldn't work with the grinding experiments I've tried. I camped racers on coins and just sat there as the coins respawned on them. Coins respawn in 2 seconds, and I had two racers sitting on them. In 5 minutes, I would have earned about 300 coins. Yet, no parts were unlocked after the race.

FFMaster1212 posted...
Solid2TheSnake posted...
I thought the Golden Glider took 10K to unlock, not 20K.

Either way, thank you for confirming. This weekend we collected 4K coins simply from playing multiplayer for hours upon hours. I have no doubt that we'll unlock the gold glider in no time just from normal play.


I heard 10k ALSO

It is 10,000, yes. That was my fault.
---
http://www.steven-chase.com
http://www.megamanmonthly.com