Why insist on Big Boss becoming evulz?

#1emilieautumn08Posted 6/11/2014 11:24:48 AM
It wouldn't make sense at this point. He is a great guy, he loves his comrades and he will commit atrocities, yes, he will do asswholly things during the course of Phantom Pain, but he is still the big Boss we saw at the end of MSG4. Why not an epilogue (like in MGS4), where we follow his train of thought while Solid rocket launches his ass to hell, and we find out that he planned his death as a honorable way for a soldier/crazy assassin way to go? you know, a death seeker, as he has always been? And he of course he was pissed of when the revived him...
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#2fai9al90Posted 6/12/2014 12:23:25 AM
Cuz evil is a generic term children believe in, but adults know better and that there's more than one side to a story.
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#3Evolution_basicPosted 6/12/2014 1:08:54 PM
Evil is a point of view for the most part in Metal Gear. We know now that Big Boss's motivations are his own and while the world eventually paints him as evil for acts that MGSV is about to cover, that isn't the real story.

We'll see.
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#4peephole303Posted 6/12/2014 1:28:01 PM
Evolution_basic posted...
Evil is a point of view for the most part in Metal Gear. We know now that Big Boss's motivations are his own and while the world eventually paints him as evil for acts that MGSV is about to cover, that isn't the real story.

We'll see.


Technically he isnt evil till the end of MG.
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#5beardface21Posted 6/12/2014 1:39:30 PM(edited)
It's not really about Big Boss turning evil, and more about Big Boss turning into the man Solid Snake faces in MG 1 and MG 2.

From what we are seeing it's pretty much Kratos from GOW. We all know he did some horrible things, but we still stood by his side in his war against the Gods and the Titans.

Same like we do here against Zero and his Patriots.
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#6Ether101Posted 6/15/2014 9:27:41 AM(edited)
fai9al90 posted...
Cuz evil is a generic term children believe in, but adults know better and that there's more than one side to a story.


When someone start killing and raping for fun there's really no other way to look at it.

beardface21 posted...
It's not really about Big Boss turning evil, and more about Big Boss turning into the man Solid Snake faces in MG 1 and MG 2.

From what we are seeing it's pretty much Kratos from GOW. We all know he did some horrible things, but we still stood by his side in his war against the Gods and the Titans.

Same like we do here against Zero and his Patriots.


Except everything in GoW is Kratos' fault and everyone blames him.
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#7cooolioPosted 6/15/2014 11:26:21 AM
Ether101 posted...
fai9al90 posted...
Cuz evil is a generic term children believe in, but adults know better and that there's more than one side to a story.


When someone start killing and raping for fun there's really no other way to look at it.

beardface21 posted...
It's not really about Big Boss turning evil, and more about Big Boss turning into the man Solid Snake faces in MG 1 and MG 2.

From what we are seeing it's pretty much Kratos from GOW. We all know he did some horrible things, but we still stood by his side in his war against the Gods and the Titans.

Same like we do here against Zero and his Patriots.


Except everything in GoW is Kratos' fault and everyone blames him.


They use his thirst for revenge to get him to open the box and kill Ares. THEY told him to use it!!! And they also wanted Hades dead. Yes, it was is revenge that drove him, but it is not right to tell someone to do one thing and then blame them for all the bs that follows when you had a hand in it to. The Gods were the biggest hypocrites.
#8Naked_Snake1964Posted 6/15/2014 12:14:32 PM
BB didn't get any crazy ideas until MG2, and even then he doesn't qualify as pure evil
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#9_NeroZero_Posted 6/15/2014 3:09:19 PM
Ether101 posted...
fai9al90 posted...
Cuz evil is a generic term children believe in, but adults know better and that there's more than one side to a story.


When someone start killing and raping for fun there's really no other way to look at it.


Do show me footage of Big Boss killing and raping people "for fun". Because of course, every time BB killed someone in the series, it was because he was bored and went out looking for someone to murder.

Ain't I right, board people?

Oh, and of course, BB raped people all the way from MGS3 to TPP. Isn't that right as well?

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#10Ether101Posted 6/15/2014 7:22:51 PM
_NeroZero_ posted...
Ether101 posted...
fai9al90 posted...
Cuz evil is a generic term children believe in, but adults know better and that there's more than one side to a story.


When someone start killing and raping for fun there's really no other way to look at it.


Do show me footage of Big Boss killing and raping people "for fun". Because of course, every time BB killed someone in the series, it was because he was bored and went out looking for someone to murder.

Ain't I right, board people?

Oh, and of course, BB raped people all the way from MGS3 to TPP. Isn't that right as well?

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The whole Series Program is based on what Big Boss did in Outer Heaven and that was meant to be seen as rape. And you know that because your familiar with MGS2's storyline. And you do know what Big Boss said in his speech at the end of MG2 about how nothing but war did it for him anymore and how that means that he killed people to get off and only to get off.
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