Reasons why this game isn't as good as Donkey Kong Country 2
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2 years ago#81
Huh, I never hear about the DK games but I'm starting to understand why. The community is as bad if not worse than all the other ones.
I don't know about the community but, on this board, even though everything seems peaceful and perfect, if one dares criticize DK:TF even slightly the defenders of the game will fall on them like 16 tons--at best, the post of the person who criticized it gets dismissed.
To be fair, though, a lot of the criticism for this game has been unjustified and stupid. Still, what I said is mostly true.
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2 years ago#82
This seems to be a common sentiment on the 'net; Tropical Freeze, while very good and an admirable effort by Retro, still doesn't hold up to the legendary Donkey Kong Country 2.
you forgot about not being able to switch between playing as the other kongs
2 years ago#83
I agree with some of the level themeing, most of it is very basic level themes. But let's not forget how many times DKC2 recycled levels like honey combs, roller coasters or swamps.
The level design in this game is more unique overall as well with not a lot of reused gimmicks.
Really mess the atmosphere of DKC2 though, I'd like to see retro try there hand at that in the next game for a change.
Don't really care that the Kremlings are gone I miss theme but it's not a huge factor. The original game had horrible enemies but this one manged to create some pretty good ones with a lot of character.
The animal buddies got a little gimmicky for me I would like to have seen more used in this game though.
Overall the core level design is a bit more diverse and better overall.
but yeah the boss battles in this game are really good so much better than the horrid ones featured in the first DKC Returns game.
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2 years ago#84
In less than 2 seconds I refuted the first 3 complaints in my mind.
That, and why do we care if it's DKC2 is better? What's the point of this topic exactly?
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2 years ago#85
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2 years ago#86
No game in the world is as good as DKC2, OP.
2 years ago#87
I would actually beg to differ on this, as I actually prefer Returns and Tropical Freeze to DKC2. And this coming from a girl who did have DKC2 as her favorite game in the Donkey Kong series.
I think complaining that the Kremlings are gone is silly. In fact, because they haven't been using them, we've gotten more variety. I actually really like the Tikis, and penguins, birds and so on from this game. Mind you, I don't hate the Kremlings, but to be fair, there is really only so much you can do with them.
While the diversity in the environments may not seem that great, I think the visuals are stunning. Not only that, but I find the levels to be really unique and fun. I'm honestly having way too much fun to care.
To be perfectly honest, I always preferred Rambi anyway. I'm not saying the others were bad, but Rambi was the one I always looked forward to riding. And even then, I don't need the animal buddies to have fun either. Besides, in Tropical Freeze, you can actually switch between Diddy, Dixie and Cranky just by using the barrels, so I don't really think it would be needed to add all of the animal buddies.
I would beg to differ and bring up Muncher Marathon from Returns. That is very memorable and even has its own track! Besides, why do we need 'surprise chases?' There is more surprises than just who or what we are chased by. Besides, I don't really think the one where you are being chased by that pirate phantom was much of a surprise really. My problem was the plus and minus barrels, not what was chasing me.
I don't really need minigames. To be fair, the one with Swanky wasn't even all that fun for me, and aside from some things, I rarely got the answers to the questions. I mean, names I could get right, but when it suddenly asks things like 'how many windows were here' or something along those lines, I can't help but think, 'Do they expect me to actually pay attention to that?' Also, honestly speaking, I don't really see the point to it since your life counter resets when you turn the game off.
Also, to continue on minigames, to be fair while the 'ones' in these do tend to repeat, the ones in DKC2 also do. It's always either destroying enemies, collecting all the stars, or just finding the coin in general. I'm not saying the way they do things isn't unique, but if we have to be honest, we still do the exact same things.
Honestly, I'd rather collect the KONG letters over looking for some Kremling coins. To be honest, I really hated looking for those. I more played the game to just play it. Getting the puzzle pieces is like the coins, but at least I don't have to get them all to play every level if I don't want to. I'm not saying collectibles is bad, but I'll be honest, as much as I love DKC2, I've never properly beaten it. Meaning getting 102%, and quite frankly, I don't care to.
Also, a quick comment about the Mario bosses... I have to ask, has it really been that different? Like compare the fight with Boom Boom in SMB3 with 3D World.
I'm not saying you still can't prefer DKC2 or DKC3, but personally, I think Returns and Tropical Freeze are much more fun to play. Which in my opinion is the most important thing anyway.
2 years ago#88
I don't see how anyone could possibly think the Snowmads lacked character
This. I haven't beat the game yet (reached 6-4 yesterday) and I already think the Snowmad are better than any DKC enemy yet. Playing blind, at least until I beat the main game. So I can't wait to fight the last boss. What was his name again, Lord Fredrik or sonething?
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2 years ago#89
I agree with you that DKC2 is a great game, especially for the year it was released in but I don't really agree with your points.
-I don't see that the Kremlings have so much more character than the Snowmads. You couldn't see any emotion on the faces of the Kremlings in DKC2. The Snowmads however,you can see exactly what the Polarbear feels when you accidently let his popsicle fall in the juice. That is something you couldn't see with the Kremlings.
-Donkey Kong Country also had lots of unique levels, A level full of Jello, a level that takes place at some sort of an African festival, a level full of hot airballoons, a level in a tornado, a level in which you have to dodge cheese and also a level with beehives. I personally think that Tropical Freeze makes way more use of the enviroments in stead of it just being background.
-The animal buddy-system also wasn't that great in DKC2. There were way too many animal buddies and some of those were only used a few times. Of course, I would have loved to see Enguarde in Tropical Freeze but I think it is better to keep the animal buddies special than to make them a regular power-up.
-Okay, I agree that there aren't any big suprises but I don't think that makes this game worse than DKC2
-I don't really feel the need for mini-games, I think they kind of break the atmosphere
Again, I am not saying Tropical Freeze is way better than DKC2, but in my opinion it sure isn't worse
2 years ago#90
To be fair, this is a comparison of a game on the 16 bit SNES and a game on the Wii U... So yeah you would see more expression in a game with superior tech behind it... That said, the Tiki Tak Tribe had NO excuse for sucking as hard as they did. Let us all pray that whether we get stuck with a arctic animals or crocodiles with a mean streak, that we NEVER see those wooden abominations again.
A little off topic... Actually a lot off topic, I needed a place to post this
Has anyone seen that before? I'm thinking "how many renders did Rare make back in the day?!".
But yeah I like Kremlings better than the Snowmads and think their leader is a pathetic K. Rool wannabe and even I won't say that the enemy choice was a game breaker for this game... I mean if you could have fun with a game with the Tiki Tak Tribe, then nothing is a deal breaker as far as enemies go.
A lot of the other points are kind of asinine too. But as a guy who actually likes the Kremlings I had to shoot that one down specifically.