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Any good leveling mods? Vanilla leveling is atrocious.

#1FerretDruidPosted 4/9/2013 8:15:19 AM(edited)
Yup, so I'm on my 4th or 5th playthrough, and I don't feel like dealing with the stupidity of carefully planning every skill gain to maximize my statistics without wasting skillups.

Is there a leveling mod that more or less eliminates the need to do this?
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#2MustavusPosted 4/9/2013 9:45:04 AM
Look up Galshiah's Character Development. I forget specifically how it works, but iirc it makes leveling up sort of happen in the background based on the skills you level up.
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#3DemiversePosted 4/9/2013 12:15:24 PM
Galsiahs is one of the most popular ones, but it's more trouble than it's worth. In its attempt to "fix" the leveling system, it ultimately just replaces the old flaws with new ones. There are safer, simpler alternatives that don't implement as much complex scripting.

One such alternative is Madd Leveler, a relatively straightforward mod. When you raise an attribute's skill a number of times, said attribute automatically raises one point. It allows for more well-rounded progression and eliminates the need for multipliers. Furthermore, you can edit the rate of progression, as well as level caps, fairly easily.
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#4Psycho Lu BuPosted 4/9/2013 4:15:16 PM
I left a review on Madd Leveler on PES.

basically I said that the mod is worthless because if you have 123812038198911 Strength (limit is like 4093 though) and some little monster comes along and uses Damage Attribute: Strength on you

there's only one way to recover. You have to use a Restore Attribute skill.

The problem?

Restore Attribute makes your strength go to 99.

You just lost 3994 strength. Yeah. Madd Leveler is trash.


deal with it
#5DemiversePosted 4/9/2013 7:36:06 PM
Why would you need 384763495879 strength? The game is unbalanced enough as it is. 99-100 strength is enough of dominate everything Morrowind can throw at you.

The fact is, every leveling mod is going to have issues, since the leveling system is such a significant part of Morrowind's scripting and gameplay. It's simply a matter of balancing the pros and cons of each mod.

Madd Leveler isn't "trash" just because it isn't perfect.
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#6Psycho Lu BuPosted 4/10/2013 1:15:19 PM
anything with bugs that can vastly disappoint the person going through the TROUBLE of installing it = trash
#7ChocolatlPosted 4/10/2013 1:17:25 PM
Why do you have to max your statistics? That's really not the point of Morrowind.
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#8Kir__KanosPosted 4/11/2013 1:53:42 AM
Chocolatl posted...
Why do you have to max your statistics? That's really not the point of WRPG's.

Partially fixed that for you, but you had it right.

Ultimately it's up to the player as much as I discourage min/maxing. GCD is your best bet. Linora's Leveling Mod also works great as a massive improvement on vanilla while keeping the overall system intact. It's like.....15 variables changed or something crazy but it makes a difference.
#9FrithPosted 4/11/2013 4:50:27 AM
I prefer GCD as well, mainly because I'm not interested in expending any energy toward level management.
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#10ChocolatlPosted 4/11/2013 10:53:35 AM
I tried leveling mods, and found they made the game pretty dull. So now I just level as I go, and don't worry about maxing stats.

It should be pointed out that there are some mods, such as Lothavor's Legacy, that conflict with leveling mods.
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