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#41_Marka_Ragnos_Posted 6/1/2012 5:32:51 PM
Spacewhizguy posted...
_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
No. Everything stock is better than the iMac so I'm not going to waste my time configuring it for you. Bring the hard drive up to 1TB brings the price up to $1300 compared to $1900. Faster processor, better desktop grade GPU, twice the ram running at a faster speed. It's an all around better desktop and is cheaper.


You forgot the $800-$900 monitor bundled into the iMac. I'll be nice and use the lower estimate. Add $800 to your price. Your build is $200 more expensive than the iMac.

You fail. Try again.


How about no? Even if you add in the horribly overpriced 27in apple ips display, the higher and faster ram, much better desktop GPU and faster processor make the $200 price worth it. However you won't be buying that ridiculously overpriced thing. There are plenty of 27in ips displays that a far cheaper and apples.

You fail. You try again.
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#42SpacewhizguyPosted 6/1/2012 5:36:03 PM(edited)
_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
There are plenty of ips 27in monitors available for less than $800. Cat leap for example. So with the machine I posted you have twice the ram clocked at a faster speed, a faster processor, a desktop GPU compared to a laptop GPU, for either the same price or less than the iMac. .


Lol, you've clearly never heard of the Catleap before this topic.

And protip: it's quite noticeable worse than the iMac's screen. Most of the people spending $2k on this type of computer are doing it for the good quality of the monitor, like professional photo editors. translated: they wouldn't touch the Catleaps and their poor quality control. The basic panel may be similar, but everything else is different. Random dead pixels/dust, poor stands, poor build quality, lack of basic features like proper upscaling, lack of proper calibration, poor warranty, etc... All kinda important, you know.
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#43SpacewhizguyPosted 6/1/2012 5:38:47 PM
_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
How about no? Even if you add in the horribly overpriced 27in apple ips display, the higher and faster ram, much better desktop GPU and faster processor make the $200 price worth it. However you won't be buying that ridiculously overpriced thing. There are plenty of 27in ips displays that a far cheaper and apples.

You fail. You try again.


27" Apple Cinema Display. Dell U2711. HP ZR2740w. Samsung S27A850D.

Note how there's more names in there than Apple. And note how they're all in about the same price range.
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#44DreDayyPosted 6/1/2012 5:40:21 PM
Spacewhizguy posted...
_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
There are plenty of ips 27in monitors available for less than $800. Cat leap for example. So with the machine I posted you have twice the ram clocked at a faster speed, a faster processor, a desktop GPU compared to a laptop GPU, for either the same price or less than the iMac. .


Lol, you've clearly never heard of the Catleap before this topic.

And protip: it's quite noticeable worse than the iMac's screen. Most of the people spending $2k on this type of computer are doing it for the good quality of the monitor, like professional photo editors. translated: they wouldn't touch the Catleaps and their poor quality control. The basic panel may be similar, but everything else is different. Random dead pixels/dust, poor stands, poor build quality, lack of basic features like proper upscaling, lack of proper calibration are kinda important, poor warranty, etc... All kinda important, you know.


the catleap literally uses the same panel as the apple cinema display, its just rated lower because it may or may not have more dead pixels and or back light bleeding.

You act like you cant calibrate a catleap, if you want to here you go http://www.amazon.com/Datacolor-S4P100-Spyder4Pro/dp/B006TF37H8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338597555&sr=8-1.

p.s you can buy a monitor stand.

sounds like you really dont know much about monitors
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#45SpacewhizguyPosted 6/1/2012 5:47:21 PM(edited)
I've probably been using good monitors before you've even heard of the term IPS, bro.

And I never said anything about you not being able to calibrate the Catleap. I just meant that its factory calibration is much worse than one coming from a company with actual quality control.

Obviously you can calibrate it. It sure is a pain in the butt though with the lack of built in controls and OSD. And adding in a calibration tool will drive the total price above the iMac, which is the entire point of this discussion. Don't forget the stand too. More $$ and time.
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#46_Marka_Ragnos_Posted 6/1/2012 5:48:03 PM
Of course I've heard about cat leaps before this topic. I mentioned one several posts back. I actually have one ordered at the moment so I'll come back and tll you about the quality. Everything I've heard from owners has been resoundingly positive. Everything has a chance of dead pixels.

And it still stands that the components I chose are far far better than the iMac for either cheaper or the same price.
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#47DreDayyPosted 6/1/2012 5:48:44 PM
Spacewhizguy posted...
I've probably been using good monitors before you've even heard of the term IPS, bro.

And I never said anything about you not being able to calibrate the Catleap. I just meant that its factory calibration is much worse than one coming from a company with actual quality control.

Obviously you can calibrate it. It sure is a pain in the butt though with the lack of built in controls and OSD. And adding in a calibration tool will drive the total price above the iMac, which is the entire point of this discussion.


who the hell uses factory calibration as an argument for why a monitor is better for photo and video editing because if you are doing? You will have to buy one for an imac as well since you will always calibrate your own monitor always.
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#48elite5472Posted 6/1/2012 5:49:18 PM
So what? You save $300-400 by building your own computer. That's hardly news, and not even an apple-only issue.
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#49DreDayyPosted 6/1/2012 5:49:59 PM
and if you dont want to buy a calibrator head on over to tft central or prad and find a profile,
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#50_Marka_Ragnos_Posted 6/1/2012 5:52:35 PM
elite5472 posted...
So what? You save $300-400 by building your own computer. That's hardly news, and not even an apple-only issue.


It's not the saving money part I'm talking about. That's just what this guy decided to argue about. I just said that iMacs use laptop components which is laughable since its supposed to be a desktop.
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