@fuzzyman: that ultra is ultra crappy. here's a good unit for $50; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
@Fade2black001: the 5870 is discontinued for a while and you'll be hard pressed to even find one on sale somewhere. it's a little faster (on par with the 560ti) but slower in the DX11 stuff. not worth getting these days tbh. --- "There is nothing new under EA." - Fony http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2363251
Looks like I need another case.... Any other cheap suggestions? Also is 8GB of RAM really worth it? --- We're Americans! We don't quit just because we're wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right.