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A Few Upgrade Questions.

#1EpicKingdom_Posted 6/2/2012 3:32:04 AM(edited)
(see specs).

I was going to purchase this new 23.6" monitor w/ a native res of 1920x1080 but it's been brought to my attention that a 5770 wouldn't do so well w/ games at that res maxed (Crysis, Bad Company 2, Metro, Deus Ex etc) so I was wondering if I should upgrade to a 6870? That would then solve that issue correct? Second question is, I am currently stuck w/ an unbranded PSU 580W, I'd like to get rid of that since I want to avoid future conflicts, so if I obtain a 6870 & that new monitor what is a good PSU to go w/ (450w & above? etc).

Monitor I wish to purchase:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236174

along w/ a HD6870 to replace my HD5770. (Although would it easily replace my 5770 & fit w/ current specs?)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-ATI-Radeon-HD6870-HD-687X-CNFC-900MHz-256-bit-2GB-DDR5-HDMI-PCI-E-Video-Card-/200761400897?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2ebe4fde41#ht_7286wt_910

along w/ this PSU to replace my unbranded one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Yes, I am trying to be cheap but effective. Thoughts? & Thank you.
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#2NeoBillbinePosted 6/2/2012 3:57:49 AM(edited)
Try looking at the psu below, it will be a higher rated power supply(650w vs 520w) and will be cheaper with rebate.
It will also only be $6 more without the rebate. It is also rated at 53 amps instead of 40 on the +12 v rail.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&promoid=1068
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#3godplaysSNESPosted 6/2/2012 3:51:23 AM
For those games you listed, the HD5770 is good enough for medium on 1080p...I played Deus Ex on the highest I believed, with FXAA
In BC2 I get around 60-70 FPS on medium, 40-50 on high

I'd say that the CPU is the bigger bottleneck for the moment being, more and more games want quad cores


If you are to upgrade the GPU though, I'd suggest waiting for Nvidia's new mid-range cards to come out, and see how they affect prices
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#4NeoBillbinePosted 6/2/2012 3:53:00 AM
That 6870 is really expensive, If you plan to spend over $210 add $40 more and get an HD 7850. The one below will be $240 after rebate, and will be a better card than the 6870.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405
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#5godplaysSNESPosted 6/2/2012 3:54:28 AM(edited)
This test was on the HD5870, but you can still see that the dual cores limit the performance, quad cores are significantly better

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/battlefield_bad_company_2_tuning_guide,7.html
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#6EpicKingdom_(Topic Creator)Posted 6/2/2012 4:18:31 AM(edited)
godplaysSNES posted...
This test was on the HD5870, but you can still see that the dual cores limit the performance, quad cores are significantly better

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/battlefield_bad_company_2_tuning_guide,7.html


Of course they are (; although I'm fine w/ my CPU for now. It's not entirely crap. Bad Company 2 may recommend quad but you can get away w/ things on Dual & Metro as well, approves of a dual core above 3.0 as well as any other game a dual would pass for minimum (if not rec) while the rest of specs hit recommended which all works out in a way & in time I'll upgrade. Let's discuss my plan for the OP first.
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#7EpicKingdom_(Topic Creator)Posted 6/2/2012 4:10:08 AM
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#8godplaysSNESPosted 6/2/2012 4:13:11 AM
Yes you are fine with the dual core for now, but the point is, you aren't going to see the GPU upgrade benefit if you don't have a quad core to go with it...

What's the point in getting the new GPU if the dual core limits you from getting all those extra frames?
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#9EpicKingdom_(Topic Creator)Posted 6/2/2012 4:27:21 AM(edited)
godplaysSNES posted...
Yes you are fine with the dual core for now, but the point is, you aren't going to see the GPU upgrade benefit if you don't have a quad core to go with it...

What's the point in getting the new GPU if the dual core limits you from getting all those extra frames?


So your suggesting to void my original plan & go straight for a CPU upgrade then GPU > PSU? If we start there what do you suggest? (If you'd please). whatever I'm trying to do, is upgrade to game on that monitor high to max. idk, something like that.

This?? -_-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

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#10godplaysSNESPosted 6/2/2012 4:30:25 AM
EpicKingdom_ posted...
godplaysSNES posted...
Yes you are fine with the dual core for now, but the point is, you aren't going to see the GPU upgrade benefit if you don't have a quad core to go with it...

What's the point in getting the new GPU if the dual core limits you from getting all those extra frames?


So your suggesting to void my original plan & go straight for a CPU upgrade? If we start there what do you suggest? (If you'd please). whatever I'm trying to do, is upgrade to game on that monitor high to max. idk, something like that.


You will see a benefit, it's just that it will be held back by the CPU...Some games will be held back more than others
A few games are just also limited by being able to only use 2 cores, Starcraft 2 for example(and Crysis 1, but that's not as extreme as SC2)...In that game, a Sandybridge/Ivybridge would be a big upgrade

I'd suggest you try the new monitor with your current rig, before you settle for upgrading...All games don't show a big difference between medium and high/max, you may find out that you are satisfied with your current HD5770 and Phenom II X2


If you upgrade the CPU, the cheapest(except from successfully unlocking the cores:)) would be to get a Phenom II X4(or X6)...You could do that without having to change the motherboard
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