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GTX 780 vs Crossfire 7970 ghz edition

#31ShebeskiiPosted 8/7/2013 5:41:00 PM(edited)
TheFeshPince posted...
Dear AMD, you lost this random unimportant poll on a video game message board because no one trusts you. I hope you realize what you've done.


You act like this poll doesn't carry any significance at all. I'm apparently, by some accounts, the resident Nvidia fanboy, and I voted for AMD and it was still a landslide.

If you don't think the frame time issue with both single and CF configurations (and the fact that CF was horribly gimped functionality wise) didn't seriously ding AMD's reputation with the enthusiast crowd, you're just damn ignorant.
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#32Xeeh_BitzPosted 8/7/2013 5:42:08 PM
780 would perform better, performance does not have to mean frames per second. With a multi-gpu setup of any type, you will have issues, lack of support the first week or so of release.

AMD/Nvidia all the time are fixing issues with CF/SLI because there are issues. So of course a single card performs better in that sense than a multi-gpu setup.
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#33TheFeshPince(Topic Creator)Posted 8/7/2013 5:42:11 PM
I just didn't realize how serious this was... good god, what have I done?

Also, I actually completely agree with you.
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#34ShebeskiiPosted 8/7/2013 5:50:46 PM(edited)
TheFeshPince posted...
I just didn't realize how serious this was... good god, what have I done?

Also, I actually completely agree with you.


Don't be afraid of some seriousness - it won't bite (most of the time).

But I guess I should have seen the soft troll. I think you made a topic on switching to a 780 from a CF setup, so you may have tons of experience with this whole thing, but being cognizant of it is another issue entirely.

Data can say one thing, but don't doubt that confirmation bias/expectations and the placebo effect play a huge role (people expect CF to work and produce smooth frames, so they "experience" it, much like people will depression feel better after being given a sugar pill, but they're told it is an antidepressant).

I'm really happy AMD has fixed the issue. It only brings up the standards we come to expect. Nvidia has to work harder as AMD is actually producing good frame times and a quality experience.

The question is, will AMD be able to hold down the fort, or will things slip back? It took them months to come up with a fix. The fix was unlikely easy for them. It's a wait and see approach at this point, but I'm optimistic.
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#35Snuckie7Posted 8/7/2013 7:20:12 PM
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#36PhilOnDezPosted 8/7/2013 8:01:33 PM
In all fairness, the way the poll is set up I almost voted before realizing what I was voting on. All the topic title and poll say is "780 vs crossfire 7970", as in which would I pick if offered, or which would I pick if I was spending the $700 or so that they would cost.

It wasn't until actually reading the OP that it was clear what the vote was actually for.
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#37TheFeshPince(Topic Creator)Posted 8/7/2013 8:06:02 PM
Sorry bout that... I was not trying to be unclear about what I meant.

I'm ok with the results, because I meant which does everyone think would perform better IRL with everything considered including temps, possibility of issues, actual frame rates, etc.
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#38Knighted DragonPosted 8/7/2013 8:51:51 PM
From: Lemur_H | #023
I'm well aware. But you need to face reality. Polls are always going to be a popularity contest. "Fanboyism" as you call it.

Deal with it and move on.



. . . which is exactly what he said to begin with. This board is horribly biased towards Nvidia to the point of being blind fanboys
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#39KURRUPTORPosted 8/7/2013 9:38:36 PM
Shebeskii posted...
KURRUPTOR posted...
These results do a great job showing how biased the PCH board is towards Nvidia.


Wouldn't say that. AMD multiGPU was garbage until last week. You can't blame the distrust in AMD's products when AMD built themselves that reputation over many years.


"Since the new drivers, which do you think would perform better?"
Those are the first words of the original post here.

Nvidia fanboys severely lack reading comprehension it seems. He's not asking which you would prefer to buy, or which would be easier to use, or which would cost less, or which performed better last week, or which performed better last year. The question is pretty damn specific, and the answer should be cut and dry. Anyone who voted 780 is either a blatant Nvidia fanboy or they lack reading comprehension... I'm not really sure how anyone can argue against that statement.

The whole theme of this poll seems to be Nvidia fanboys ignoring the question asked just for the sake of favoring Nvidia blindly (or they don't know how to read English properly); and then everyone else that lives in the real world (or understands 3rd grade level English) that votes for the correct answer.

I do understand that you answered very un-biasedly but you can't really argue with the results... something is clearly amiss here, and the clear and obvious answer is that this board is very Nvidia biased since the real world performance tests should suggest that the poll be 100% towards the 7970s.

I'm also not trying to say that AMD doesn't deserve the distrust placed in their products (they had like a 2.5 year run of putting out some really shoddy products and software) but anyone who keeps up-to-date in the tech world should know that AMD has improved by leagues over the last year or so (at least in their GPU department). And since the question specifically states that this poll is in regards to AFTER the drivers came which would perform better it should be an obvious and clear winner... yet somehow the 780 is winning the poll.
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#40Lemur_HPosted 8/7/2013 9:42:07 PM
Most don't even read the first post and blindly vote in the poll.

I await your massive response. Please make it no less than 2500 characters. I need to know that you put real effort into your anti-fanboy crusade.