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Obama Administration Revives SOPA Proposal

#41PanopictonguyPosted 8/17/2013 12:27:01 PM
The cranky hermit posted...
They're basically trying to make it illegal to record covers of copyrighted songs and put them on youtube.

I'm actually looking at the green paper that the Internet Policy Task Force published, and I don't see at all where this is coming from. Seems more likely that this is the Internet misconstruing things, knowing full well that people like you will endlessly repeat it without bothering to check your facts, eventually making it become "fact."


I'd love to see what you find. Overall the reaction to this seems stupid and unjustified. Seems like people just want a reason to say "Obama ****ed up, I told you so!"
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#42MagnemightPosted 8/17/2013 12:30:54 PM
Enigma149 posted...
Stone_Magnet posted...
blax34dm posted...
zerooo0 posted...
Obama is such a great president right guys?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Just a shame how many people in this country were stupid enough to actually vote for him... Twice!


Compared to the other moron that was trotted out by the repubs can you blame most people?


Honestly, this.

McCain was doomed because of Bush...and Romney was...Romney. Even then, he might've won, had he picked a more moderate VP.


Just a shame how many people in this country were stupid enough to actually vote for him... Twice! - quite a lot of people on George W. Bush

how rather surprising that there are some moderates here rather than only crazy extremists and loud government haters

little bit more faith in the internet

side note, but fun GameFAQs fact: You can't put the word "it" after "bush"
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#43akuma634Posted 8/17/2013 3:22:24 PM
They need more honesty with the names of these bills like "Make sure corporations can butt f*** civilians to their hearts content." That is what SOPA is in a nutshell. Forget piracy, it's about giving corporate America free reign to pull the plug on anything they dislike about the world's internet.
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#44PremiumPosted 8/17/2013 4:16:42 PM
That was one of the problems with SOPA as far as other nations were concerned, wasn't it? Pretty much ignores any 'international jurisditions'.

I think I recall reading somewhere that the EU weren't particularly impressed when the stuff on PRISM came out, not because they were against it fundamentally, but because it pretty much bypassed all due process and related it to how they felt about SOPA (the EU were already ACTA signatories, so it's not like they were vehemently against the idea).
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#45TimePharaohPosted 8/17/2013 5:55:54 PM
Ghennkins posted...

Yea I can't possibly imagine why anyone on the planet could possibly want an optional tool to block pornography and violent content from being viewed on their computer. Nope, none whatsoever.


Optional tools already exist.


And....so? Horrendously bad logic. If something exists, that's it, don't make an alternatives? So lets all use our DOS computers to browse AskJeeves to look up the latest laser disc releases, all on AOL dial up?

Since when do alternative options=bad? Are you a communist?
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#46TimePharaohPosted 8/17/2013 5:57:14 PM
Psykic Petrol posted...
That was one of the problems with SOPA as far as other nations were concerned, wasn't it? Pretty much ignores any 'international jurisditions'.

I think I recall reading somewhere that the EU weren't particularly impressed when the stuff on PRISM came out, not because they were against it fundamentally, but because it pretty much bypassed all due process and related it to how they felt about SOPA (the EU were already ACTA signatories, so it's not like they were vehemently against the idea).


The thing is though....who cares about other countries? The vast majority of the internet infrastructure is owned by the US. And why do you think ICE can block pretty much whatever they want? Because pretty much every used domain (.com, .gov,. us, .org, .biz, whatever) is the property of the United States.
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#47PremiumPosted 8/17/2013 10:25:12 PM(edited)
Because these sort of spats always end up leaking out into other unrelated areas of foreign affairs. You can't just look at these things in isolation.

Plus, there's the whole history of the West, especially America, criticising China on human rights, censorship, etc. Well, not like they were too bothered about the moaning behind closed doors, but this would pretty much give China a very public way of saying lolno, which in-turn would be incredibly embarrassing politically.
Politics is just petty that. Locally, domestically and internationally.
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#48The cranky hermitPosted 8/18/2013 7:38:38 AM
That was one of the problems with SOPA as far as other nations were concerned, wasn't it? Pretty much ignores any 'international jurisditions'.

Why should "international jurisdictions" have anything to do with what a country does with their own infrastructure? When we criticize China's censorship, it would sound very silly to accuse them of "ignoring international jurisdictions."

I think I recall reading somewhere that the EU weren't particularly impressed when the stuff on PRISM came out, not because they were against it fundamentally, but because it pretty much bypassed all due process and related it to how they felt about SOPA

Also a very silly criticism that shows you don't really understand what "due process" means. Hint: It involves personal legal rights, and having a website not be blocked isn't a personal legal right.

Plus, there's the whole history of the West, especially America, criticising China on human rights, censorship, etc. Well, not like they were too bothered about the moaning behind closed doors, but this would pretty much give China a very public way of saying lolno, which in-turn would be incredibly embarrassing politically.

False equivalency FTL. Besides that, we already have laws that allow the DoJ to take down domestic websites. Not just block them, but actually take them down. I don't see China "lolnoing" with that.
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#49ThunderPotatoPosted 8/18/2013 7:54:30 AM
g7g7g7g7 posted...
You guys have nothing to complain about, the U.K is getting China-style censorship.

https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/sleepwalking-into-censorship

How would you define "esoteric material".


Uh yes, we do actually. See, we're not the UK thankfully. Your problems have no bearing on our problems. Literally no one cares if you have it worse, that doesn't mean we have to stand for SOPA.
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#50SlaynPosted 8/18/2013 7:55:02 AM
How is punishing people who download illegal files censorship... and who says that people are going to be charged as felons for covering songs lol? You people have no idea what you are talking about., Stop having political discussions on reddit and 4chan.
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