the Hifi-780s are just simulated surround, right? not with tons of s**** drivers packed into them?
Ultrasone HFI 780 is just an off-center placement of the speaker, so the SPL is reduced, and it hits your ear canal in-directly. To give a nice soundstage for closed headphones. No driver simulation. Although Ultrasone might apply their own sound manipulation to achieve their own european sound.
awesome. I ordered them. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING AN AWESOME HELP. getting closer to the audio setup I want :3 --- "Nowhere is longer safe. The earth MOVES under our feet. The great world tree, Yggdrasil, trembles to it's roots."