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#11Fade2black001Posted 9/1/2013 11:40:34 AM
d209999 posted...
Fade2black001 posted...
If TC has this kind of money to spend he may as well go with 16GB of RAM. 8GB isn't enough really. I used up my 8GB of RAM many times just by multitasking. I got 5GB of RAM used up right now... Its not hard to use 8GB of RAM.


Considering your posting history, if TC ever finds himself in a situation where is computing habits are similar to yours, he is doing something very, very wrong.


What are you talking about?
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#12sknmakPosted 9/1/2013 11:55:27 AM(edited)
8GBs is more than enough for gaming and everyday use. I'm running 12GB and never get close to 8GBs while multitasking. unless I'm using my video editing or music programs. Even then it takes a crap load of samples to get past 6GBs with a lot of other programs running. Regularly I'm never going over 2.5GBs [unless I have more than one Firefox window opened with tabs---> 3GBs] and that's when I have a ton of tabs open and a few programs opened.

I bet TC won't even get close to fully utilizing all 8GBs on a daily bases.
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#132Dhas_a_MIGRANEPosted 9/1/2013 11:58:32 AM
ImperatorMundi posted...
What have people's experiences been with this guy:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

Versus this guy?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127747

Would I take a significant performance hit if I went with the former? I'm only going to be gaming in 1080p. Also, let's assume that Arkham Origins isn't a factor.


If you overclock both the performance will be similar. If you're not planning on getting another in the future I'd go with the 7970. If you want to go crossfire/sli later and don't mind spending more get the 770. AMD is still fixing crossfire for certain cases so Nvidia is more consistent at the moment.
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#14ImperatorMundi(Topic Creator)Posted 9/1/2013 2:24:09 PM
Right, well, I blended everyone's suggestions into this build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/charrity18/saved/2ixq

I have no experience at all with overclocking, so I'll have to look into that. So, having knocked off about $200 from the original price of the build, let's say, hypothetically, that I would need to do video editing on this computer. Is there a processor cut out for that sort of thing that's within $200 above the 4670K?
#152Dhas_a_MIGRANEPosted 9/1/2013 2:32:44 PM(edited)
ImperatorMundi posted...
Right, well, I blended everyone's suggestions into this build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/charrity18/saved/2ixq

I have no experience at all with overclocking, so I'll have to look into that. So, having knocked off about $200 from the original price of the build, let's say, hypothetically, that I would need to do video editing on this computer. Is there a processor cut out for that sort of thing that's within $200 above the 4670K?


There's the i7 4770K that would be better for that kind of stuff.

Also I noticed you only picked a 450W PSU. You might want to get one that's 600/650W so you have more room to upgrade if you want to add more stuff later.
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#16d209999Posted 9/1/2013 3:04:55 PM
2Dhas_a_MIGRANE posted...
Also I noticed you only picked a 450W PSU. You might want to get one that's 600/650W so you have more room to upgrade if you want to add more stuff later.


Agreed. Not sure why you downgraded that.
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#17sknmakPosted 9/1/2013 3:29:27 PM
Yeah TC I offered you a build for only $20 more. Why did you change anything? If you need to save some money just get the cheaper 2TB Seagate Hard Drive.

My build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yIuz
Total: $1380.67 [only 20 bucks more]

However it appears you took my recommended build and changed the Motherboard, RAM and PSU. I don't care about the RAM you choose at all. The MB I suggest and the 750watt power supply I suggested is fine. However, it is your PC build and there are a lot of different brands to consider. I wouldn't go with a 450 watt power supply if I were you. Seriously don't do it.
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#18ImperatorMundi(Topic Creator)Posted 9/1/2013 6:49:45 PM
sknmak posted...
Yeah TC I offered you a build for only $20 more. Why did you change anything? If you need to save some money just get the cheaper 2TB Seagate Hard Drive.

My build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yIuz
Total: $1380.67 [only 20 bucks more]

However it appears you took my recommended build and changed the Motherboard, RAM and PSU. I don't care about the RAM you choose at all. The MB I suggest and the 750watt power supply I suggested is fine. However, it is your PC build and there are a lot of different brands to consider. I wouldn't go with a 450 watt power supply if I were you. Seriously don't do it.


Oof, don't take it personally, man. I didn't run over your dog, last I checked. I went with the other motherboard because it was a little cheaper, and changed the power supply because PartsPicker said I didn't need anywhere near 750 watts for my new (non-Crossfire) build; to reiterate, I know next to nothing. But now I see the argument for a 750W PSU -- that's a fine idea.

To all: given that Haswell CPUs apparently run hot, would the cooler that I have in the build be strong enough to keep the i5 in check?
#19sknmakPosted 9/1/2013 7:33:52 PM(edited)
ImperatorMundi posted...
Oof, don't take it personally, man. I didn't run over your dog, last I checked. I went with the other motherboard because it was a little cheaper, and changed the power supply because PartsPicker said I didn't need anywhere near 750 watts for my new (non-Crossfire) build; to reiterate, I know next to nothing. But now I see the argument for a 750W PSU -- that's a fine idea.

To all: given that Haswell CPUs apparently run hot, would the cooler that I have in the build be strong enough to keep the i5 in check?


As I said before it's your build in the end and more importantly it's your money. I'm not taking it personally at all. It's simply a suggestion. I'm only trying to help you man. I understand you don't know much.

Since you are listening to what pcpartpicker says....well checkout where it says your build should use 448W. Even if that was true why would you get a 450watt PSU. You are only leaving 2 watts if you believe part picker. You do understand that there's something called "Intel Turbo Boost tech 2.0". Your CPU can easily go from 84watts to 125watts on a load with stock settings. I've seen the 7970 Ghz Edition to go from Idle= 89 watts and spike to Load= 314watts easily.

The reason I suggested a 750watt is simply because it was the same price as your original 450watt. Both are "$59.99". Now that we've moved on to the to the Radeon 7970 Ghz Edition you are going to at the very least need a 500watt or more power supply. So despite what I said, AMD\Sapphire recommends a 500 watt PSU. Now if you ever want to Crossfire [which you have said you won't] you'll need 850watts. So why not get 300 more watts at the same price. With all of that said you need to be looking at 500 watts plus. I would personally go for a 650watt. The 750 watt I offered will give you plenty of room for overclocking if you ever wanted to get more life out of your GPU or CPU.
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#20d209999Posted 9/1/2013 9:36:50 PM(edited)
ImperatorMundi posted...
To all: given that Haswell CPUs apparently run hot, would the cooler that I have in the build be strong enough to keep the i5 in check?


The 212 Plus will be more than up to the task. If you're concerned, you can get a Y cable, a second fan, and some AS5 to shave a few extra degrees. But I wouldn't worry about it.
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