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Is the Razer Death Adder worth $49?

#31daemon_danPosted 9/5/2013 8:59:16 PM
Snuckie7 posted...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mouse_settings#Optimal_Windows_Setting


Ah, fair enough. I don't really adjust mine, just deal with it going fast when my DPI is high.
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#32Ch3wyPosted 9/5/2013 9:00:07 PM
Snuckie7 posted...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mouse_settings#Optimal_Windows_Setting


Nice, never knew that.
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#33DoctorRPG(Topic Creator)Posted 9/5/2013 9:01:50 PM
daemon_dan posted...
DoctorRPG posted...

so you wouldn't recommend the Razer Abyssus? I'm not sure if I'd be willing to spend $50 on a mouse. $20 is much more affordable for me.


With what you wanna do, the Abyssus should be fine, but I think the Abyssus is pretty small if I'm not mistaken


I have small hands.

So okay to buy it then? :P I don't know anything about mice.
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#34TheC0ndemnedOnePosted 9/5/2013 9:03:11 PM
Look at the G400s as well. If you like the shape of it, it will be superior.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G400s-Optical-Gaming-910-003589/dp/B00BCEK2LA
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#35daemon_danPosted 9/5/2013 9:03:12 PM
DoctorRPG posted...
daemon_dan posted...
DoctorRPG posted...

so you wouldn't recommend the Razer Abyssus? I'm not sure if I'd be willing to spend $50 on a mouse. $20 is much more affordable for me.


With what you wanna do, the Abyssus should be fine, but I think the Abyssus is pretty small if I'm not mistaken


I have small hands.

So okay to buy it then? :P I don't know anything about mice.


Go ahead and buy it then. The Deathadder will definitely be a better buy, but the Abyssus should be fine for you I suppose
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#36DoctorRPG(Topic Creator)Posted 9/5/2013 9:15:05 PM
is the death adder 2013 braided?
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#37_Marka_Ragnos_Posted 9/5/2013 9:19:03 PM
Garquille14 posted...
_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
It doesn't perform as good as the Deathadder. Not as responsive and will likely have prediction and/or acceleration. I personally would pay the extra for the Deathadder but if you feel like you don't need the most precise mouse you should be able to make due with the abyssus.

are you kidding? abyssus is a perfect sensor mouse just like the deathadder. It has no prediction or acceleration.


I wasn't kidding, I was just under the impression the Deathadder 2013 was the only Razer mouse without prediction or acceleration. If I'm wrong though I stand corrected.
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#38ZethPosted 9/5/2013 10:25:42 PM
You can take a look at the CM Storm Recon. I believe it also has a flawless optical sensor like the DeathAdder. The ambidextrous shape might not be to your tastes though. It wasn't for me so I switched to a DA 2013.
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#39_GRIM_FANDANGO_Posted 9/6/2013 3:46:49 AM(edited)
So much misinformation in this thread.

Here are things you should look for in a mouse:
-Shape that fits your particular anatomy, grip and playstyle
-High max perfect tracking speed
-Low lift off distance before is stops tracking [some people dislike lift off distances that are too small]
-No prediction [some people do not care about this and it does not affect them]
-No acceleration [some people do not mind it as much , depending on the genre and what you are used to]

Honestly I would first look at the first point. There is no point if you have a perfect sensor on a mouse that cramps up your hand. Also note that I did not list DPI. Even though all new sensors have a super high DPI, it is something that is now bordering on both the ridiculous and useless. Its main function seems to be to have a number on the box that will sell mice. Most people wont need anything over 2000 DPI, and higher DPI does not equal a good sensor. Note that the "pro's" in the FPS genre tend to have their mouse set to a lower, not a higher sensitivity than the average gamer.

The sensor in the Deathadder satisfies these, though whether the shape will work for you is something only you can decide. Acceleration is a big topic when it comes to mice. What it means in that when there is acceleration, not only the distance you move the mouse matters for how the cursor moves across the screen, but also the speed with which you move the mouse. Now this is something that you can get used to when it is consistent, and it can even be beneficial in some games. Though most people feel that it complicates things because the simplicity of the 1 to 1 relationship between mouse and cursor movement is easier to deal with. Especially in games like military FPS that are so popular now. That said, I would generally prefer not having acceleration in the sensor, and opting for consistent software acceleration if I wanted it (for say, playing quake where the variable sensitivity can be of use).

Laser sensors catch a lot of flak for having acceleration. But to be honest, the minor positive acceleration on the Avago series laser sensors (9500, 9800 etc.) is not quite as bad as people make it out to be. Note that the lower your the sensitivity you play with, the more the quality of the sensor matters, since this seems to amplify any problem a sensor might have. That is because at lower sensitivities you do a lot of long sweeps at variable speeds (acceleration kicks in heavy), you do faster sweeps than low sensitivity players (max tracking speed plays a role) , you pick up the mouse way more often (lift off distance) etc.

Here is a list of mice. I do not really like it, because it gives you the impression that only the non-acceleration optical sensors are worth getting, and it pays no attention to how shape can affect things ( I do not believe the Avago ADNS 9500 is a crap sensor). However, it gives a good starting or reference point to see which kind of mice have sensors that fulfill all the criteria I listed pretty much perfectly.
http://static.ylilauta.org/files/8w/orig/1371650972157869.jpg/hiirilista.jpg

How much do you need a better mouse? I would say that for the game you mention OP, it is more important to be comfortable than it matters what sensor you use. It is not really a mouse-centric game with precision aiming, the way FPS are. When it comes to keyboards, it is all about feel and comfort. There really is no such thing as a gaming keyboard in the sense that there is no real world gain from having another keyboard when it comes to gaming outside of some basic features like key rollover. If you want to spend your money for typing, being comfortable and having some additional features (media keys etc) go for it. But do not spend money expecting that it will help your performance.
#40sonicteam2k1Posted 9/6/2013 4:06:36 AM
iemerg_ posted...
DoctorRPG posted...
Maybe I should spend my $49 towards a mechanical keyboard instead...

Ah.. what to do. /:

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Ergonomic-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00AAS888S/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1378275244&sr=1-1&keywords=razer+death+adder

This is the Death Adder I want.


http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G500-Programmable-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002J9GDXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1378438489&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g500

this all day man loving it adjustable weights great grip non cheap feeling good button positioning i love it.


great mouse IMO just don't try to play the original F.E.A.R and it's expansions.

also Project Snowblind only will recognize the onboard memory (but you can customize that too)

9/10 mouse
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