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Reboot and Select Proper boot device - what is a boot device and how is it set

#1jakisthePosted 9/6/2013 11:57:29 PM(edited)
Yeah, so, I'm getting that eternal error, AE, or as the screen says:
"Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"

Which is of no help whatsoever to me, seeing as I don't know what a boot device even IS. After some searching, I come to the revelation that I can change it, so I change it to my SSD...no luck. Switched it to my HDD; same thing.
Find out that it's not detecting my disc drive (or the disc in it), buuuuuut...nothing seems to work to get that connected. I've plugged and replugged the power and data cables on both ends, nada. Needless to say, these are all new parts and I was very careful in my assembly, so I doubt it's damaged hardware...
Help?

EDIT: and now it won't even turn on...
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#2NicodimusPosted 9/7/2013 12:32:16 AM
A boot device is typically the hard drive or SSD with your OS on it. It can also be an optical drive with a Windows disc in it.

It is important to take note of the SATA ports on your motherboard. They are numbered, and it does matter, unlike, say, USB ports what device is plugged into which port. You always want your boot hard drive to be in the lowest numbered SATA port. On some motherboards this is SATA port 0, on others, it may also be 1.

If you haven't installed Windows yet, you will need to boot from the optical drive. Typically in any modern BIOS, you can choose which device gets first priority as a boot device, so for now you'd want it to be your optical drive if your hard drive is blank.

Hope this points you in the right direction!
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#3jakisthe(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 2:42:13 AM(edited)
Well, that's cleared that up...but for whatever reason, my optical drive just isn't being detected.
-Tried switching out cables
-Tried switching out ports
-Tried making it the only thing connected

Any ideas?

EDIT: Welp, making it the only thing connected and selecting it as a new boot device works....but when I go to install windows, I'm told that it cannot create or find a partition on my SSD when I plug it in.
Looking around says to delete the partition and try installing to the unallocated space, which of course doesn't do anything. Alternatively, it suggested using the advanced disc option, which isn't there anymore at all. I've tried youtube, toms forums, countless searches, and absolutely NOTHING works.
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#4NicodimusPosted 9/7/2013 3:28:51 AM(edited)
Well, I'm not sure what device you are posting this from, but if you have another PC handy, you could always use it to format the SSD and create a partition that the new PC will recognize.You shouldn't HAVE to do that, but if you're unable to do it in the BIOS or from the Windows disc, that would be my next suggestion. Pain in the ass, for sure.

I ran into a problem upgrading from Vista 64 to 7 Ultimate where the entire SSD had to be reformatted because it was not a GPT partition or some such, and it needed to be for Windows 7 to work. Pretty sure the Windows installation disc asked me if I wanted to use the correct format and did it for me. Don't know if that's the issue in your case or not, though.

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#5jakisthe(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 3:40:21 AM
I can create a partition just fine, but it refuses to install to it.

I'm going from no OS whatsoever to 8, if that helps. Hence, I'm doing a custom install (instead of the "normal" one for upgrades), and...then I run into the issue of where to actually install things.
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#6NicodimusPosted 9/7/2013 3:52:06 AM
I'm not familiar with Win8. Is it giving you a message on the screen about why it can't install? If so, you want to write that message down exactly, and then google it on your other device.

Also, just double checking, is your SSD plugged into SATA port 0 or 1 now? If not, make it so. The optical drive can usually be in SATA 3 or 4 and still work fine.
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#7jakisthe(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 3:59:06 AM(edited)
It only says that it can't install to drive 0 partition 1; not much more than that cept to adjust BIOS permissions (which are as open as possible), but I did get it to cough up error code 0x80300001 once. It seems to be a pretty common issue, but none of the fixes I've found work...

And yeah, it's in port 0. It just...won't cooperate. Very unhelpful.
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#8NicodimusPosted 9/7/2013 4:05:42 AM
jakisthe posted...
It only says that it can't install to drive 0 partition 1; not much more than that cept to adjust BIOS permissions (which are as open as possible), but I did get it to cough up error code 0x80300001 once. It seems to be a pretty common issue, but none of the fixes I've found work...

And yeah, it's in port 0. It just...won't cooperate. Very unhelpful.


OK, I have another suggestion. Bear with me, this is an ass-backwards way of doing it.

Do you have a HDD that you can use instead of the SSD for the moment? (I know lots of people build one with a HDD and SSD now.) That would rule out any SATA issues. Also, if it worked and you were able to install Win8 successfully to the HDD, you could then verify that the SSD is formatted correctly and eventually clone the HDD over to the SSD, making it your boot drive, and then format the HDD for storage.
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#9NicodimusPosted 9/7/2013 4:10:14 AM
http://www.corsair.com/applicationnote/secure-erase

This may or may not be helpful. This is how you completely erase a SSD (formatting is not the same.) The instructions and software there would work for any SSD. You could try completely wiping it instead of just reformatting it.
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#10jakisthe(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 2:56:55 PM(edited)
Well, the windows installation refuses to acknowledge the connection of my HDD, so I can't install there...and the corsair app didn't help at all. What's more, I have no other device capable of SATA interactions.

I tried again, and got the same error message. It is:
"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disks controller is enabled in your computers BIOS menu".

It occurs to me that it may not support booting to it since I need to connect the SSD to SATA only after I've begun the windows installation, as having it connected from a cold boot means that the optical drive isn't detected at all if I have anything but it (the OD) connected.
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