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Are the people who say "PC Master Race" being serious?
And now we're back to the whole luxury > no luxury debate.For instance, higher framerates will never be worse than lower framerates whether you care about it or not.
Incase you haven't figured it out yet, this debate doesn't have a set right or wrong answer. You get what you pay for. If you want to stop arguing no one's stopping you.
Snuckie7 posted...And now we're back to the whole luxury > no luxury debate.For instance, higher framerates will never be worse than lower framerates whether you care about it or not.
Unfortunately, "you get what you pay for" only applies to PC.
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TehPwnzerer posted...Snuckie7 posted...Except everything I just listed is indisputably objective. Whether that matters to you or not is a different argument, but either outcome does not refute the original point.
Your entire post is founded on miraculously random numbers. We have no idea of assessing anything remotely related to what you have given me. I could just as easily say that console gamers could be getting their games for free and and at a frequency rate of two games a week.
TehPwnzerer posted...Snuckie7 posted...And now we're back to the whole luxury > no luxury debate.For instance, higher framerates will never be worse than lower framerates whether you care about it or not.
Not when it comes to exclusives obviously.
So... just to follow this statement through based on your previous statements, you claim PC is more expensive than console. If you get what you pay for, that means you're getting a lot more for that more expensive PC.
Further, you say console gamers "don't care" about any of that extra luxury stuff.
People who live in relative squalor, with few luxuries, are often referred to as peasants. People who live in luxury are not. Following that straight on through, would the term "console peasant" not be appropriate here? Just following your line of reasoning and all, you know... ;)
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TehPwnzerer posted...Twinqe posted...TehPwnzerer posted...It's objective that console gaming is superior in price..
1) Extra features that gamers don't necessarily want doesn't give the product an edge over the competition. There's plenty that Sony invested into the PS3 like Linux support, 4 USB IOs and a blu ray player, but that didn't mean the 360 fans wanted any of it, and evidently, they didn't.
2) Sure, except without the exclusive games that come out on consoles.
If you're ok with not comparing PC gaming to console gaming, neither am I. The point I've made throughout this entire ordeal, is that console gaming has a lot of advantages over PC gaming, and it doesn't make console gamers "peasants". If PC gamers enjoy their 120fps and ubersampling, great. Who am I to take them away from that. Point is that console gamers obviously don't share the same values as they do and should be treated with proper respect.
console gaming has a lot of advantages over PC gaming
You've named one. Initial cost.
Where's this "a lot"?
edit: I'll help you out
Particular exclusives - neither an advantage nor disadvantage... just preference
Ease of use - Only to those unwilling to take an hour to learn. Nearly everyone has used a windows system and knows the basics.
Community - Maybe all your friends are on a particular console. Might be easier for you to fold than to convert them.
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No, I would not. Because people who live in squalor cannot afford a ****ing videogame console. Sorry. That's a very privileged things to have.
Yes, if you invest the money in a gaming PC, you're going to get a lot more power for what you put into it.
I'm sure if PC gamers had their way, they would be playing with their current specs at the same cost of a console as well. Do you see where I'm going with this?
PC gamers are PC gamers because they can be. Console gamers are not PC gamers because they can't be. Get it now? PC gaming is a premium thing, and offers premium quality. Console gaming is a low-budget thing and offers low-budget quality. Most people would go with PC gaming if the hardware were no more expensive because PC gaming is better.
Point is, console gamers DO care (very much so in my experience) about graphical fidelity, framerate (CoD, one of the very few 60 FPS console shooters is wildly successful--coincidence?), resolution, etc. They sure as s*** don't refer to them as such, but they do care. They just use simpler terms, which is perhaps why you never noticed.
Also, you screwed yourself earlier when you said that console gamers don't want PC exclusives but PC gamers want console exclusives and then went on to say:
"See these are things that PC gamers care about and they seem to think that console gamers are of a lesser breed of gamer because they don't, but the argument could actually be made that it's because they don't care about any of that that actually makes them a superior breed of gamer. To them, it's about the game."
So console gamers being picky proves that console gamers are superior but PC gamers being picky...also proves that console gamers are superior. Lol.
If I were to add up the costs for JUST my PS3 and it's library alone, it most certainly does NOT cost less then what it cost to build my PC and it's library of a 150 or so games.
Hell not even factoring the costs for other consoles / handhelds either.
It's most definitely NOT objective that console gaming is superior in price.
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