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$1000 to build a gaming PC

#11NicodimusPosted 9/12/2013 10:50:17 AM
gastaman posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVRN

Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVE3


You have an H87 board in that build.


Why is that a problem? LGA 1150 socket, compatible with everything...
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#12gastamanPosted 9/12/2013 10:54:11 AM
Nicodimus posted...
gastaman posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVRN

Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVE3


You have an H87 board in that build.


Why is that a problem? LGA 1150 socket, compatible with everything...


Can't change CPU multiplier with H87. Why get unlocked CPU and aftermarket cooler, if you can't overclock with that motherboard.
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#13NicodimusPosted 9/12/2013 11:14:10 AM
gastaman posted...
Nicodimus posted...
gastaman posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVRN

Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CVE3


You have an H87 board in that build.


Why is that a problem? LGA 1150 socket, compatible with everything...


Can't change CPU multiplier with H87. Why get unlocked CPU and aftermarket cooler, if you can't overclock with that motherboard.


Oh. Didn't know it was locked. Ya learn something every day...
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#14NicodimusPosted 9/12/2013 11:16:23 AM
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWph

^ That look better? The price went down when I swapped them to $927.
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#15xcmon3yx2Posted 9/12/2013 11:20:09 AM(edited)
i5 4670k
16GB DDR3
650W+ PSU
GTX 760
Case
1TB WD Blue
64GB SSD Boot drive
LGA 1150 motherboard, doesnt matter


this is the best for $1000, your welcome
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#16gastamanPosted 9/12/2013 11:36:29 AM(edited)
Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWph

^ That look better? The price went down when I swapped them to $927.


It's better, but

RAM - At that price, you can get 1866 RAM
HDD - The 64 MB cache version of the HDD is like $2 more
GPU - For ~$30 more, the 7970 is a better choice than the 760 and comes with 3 free games
PSU - This is fine, but you have space in the budget to get a better PSU (semi/full modular, higher quality, and/or more wattage, etc)
ODD - Kind of expensive for just a simple DVD burner

xcmon3yx2 posted...
i5 4670k
16GB DDR3
650W+ PSU
GTX 760
Case
1TB WD Blue
64GB SSD Boot drive
LGA 1150 motherboard, doesnt matter


this is the best for $1000, your welcome


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWMj

???
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#17NicodimusPosted 9/12/2013 11:35:04 AM
gastaman posted...
Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWph

^ That look better? The price went down when I swapped them to $927.


It's better, but

RAM - At that price, you can get 1866 RAM
HDD - The 64 MB cache version of the HDD is like $2 more
GPU - For ~$30 more, the 7970 is a better choice than the 760 and comes with 3 free games
PSU - This is fine, but you have space in the budget to get a better PSU (semi/full modular, higher quality, and/or more wattage, etc)
ODD - Kind of expensive for just a simple DVD burner


RAM - I've done extensive testing on running RAM at 1866 vs 1600 with various timings and voltages, and there is virtually no performance gain, so I don't see it as an improvement. It's better to stay at 1600 and tighten up your timings than to run 1866 IMO.

HDD - Good call.

GPU - I don't doubt that the 7970 (ignoring Crossfire stutter) is a fine card, I just have no experience with it so I went with what I did have experience with in that price range.

PSU - it's not what I would choose, but I was trying to minimize price. It is semi-modular and 80 Plus bronze, so it's fine for a mid level PC.

ODD - $25 is expensive?
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#18gastamanPosted 9/12/2013 11:53:37 AM(edited)
Nicodimus posted...
gastaman posted...
Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWph

^ That look better? The price went down when I swapped them to $927.


It's better, but

RAM - At that price, you can get 1866 RAM
HDD - The 64 MB cache version of the HDD is like $2 more
GPU - For ~$30 more, the 7970 is a better choice than the 760 and comes with 3 free games
PSU - This is fine, but you have space in the budget to get a better PSU (semi/full modular, higher quality, and/or more wattage, etc)
ODD - Kind of expensive for just a simple DVD burner


RAM - I've done extensive testing on running RAM at 1866 vs 1600 with various timings and voltages, and there is virtually no performance gain, so I don't see it as an improvement. It's better to stay at 1600 and tighten up your timings than to run 1866 IMO.

It would still be cheaper to get 1866 RAM with similar timings. Either way, you can get 1600 RAM with CAS 9 for ~$20 cheaper. Basically, what I'm saying is, the RAM you picked is expensive for what you get.

HDD - Good call.

GPU - I don't doubt that the 7970 (ignoring Crossfire stutter) is a fine card, I just have no experience with it so I went with what I did have experience with in that price range.

CFX stutter has been minimized with dual card setups with latest drivers. Regardless, we're not talking about dual card setups here.

PSU - it's not what I would choose, but I was trying to minimize price. It is semi-modular and 80 Plus bronze, so it's fine for a mid level PC.

Doesn't show it as the CX500M unless you click on it. My mistake. Still, a better PSU can be had while remaining under budget.

ODD - $25 is expensive?

Yes. You can get one that does the same thing for ~$10 cheaper.

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#19NicodimusPosted 9/12/2013 11:52:58 AM
gastaman posted...
Nicodimus posted...
gastaman posted...
Nicodimus posted...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CWph

^ That look better? The price went down when I swapped them to $927.


It's better, but

RAM - At that price, you can get 1866 RAM
HDD - The 64 MB cache version of the HDD is like $2 more
GPU - For ~$30 more, the 7970 is a better choice than the 760 and comes with 3 free games
PSU - This is fine, but you have space in the budget to get a better PSU (semi/full modular, higher quality, and/or more wattage, etc)
ODD - Kind of expensive for just a simple DVD burner


RAM - I've done extensive testing on running RAM at 1866 vs 1600 with various timings and voltages, and there is virtually no performance gain, so I don't see it as an improvement. It's better to stay at 1600 and tighten up your timings than to run 1866 IMO.

It would still be cheaper to get 1866 RAM with similar timings. Either way, you can get 1600 RAM with CAS 9 for ~$20 cheaper.

HDD - Good call.

GPU - I don't doubt that the 7970 (ignoring Crossfire stutter) is a fine card, I just have no experience with it so I went with what I did have experience with in that price range.

CFX stutter has been minimized with dual card setups with latest drivers. Regardless, we're not talking about dual card setups here.

PSU - it's not what I would choose, but I was trying to minimize price. It is semi-modular and 80 Plus bronze, so it's fine for a mid level PC.

Doesn't show it as the CX500M unless you click on it. My mistake. Still, a better PSU can be had while remaining under budget.

ODD - $25 is expensive?

Yes. You can get one that does the same thing for ~$10 cheaper.


I think we're kind of splitting hairs here, for the most part. I'm trying to make a build with somewhat quality parts without spending a ton, so it all depends how you weigh cost vs quality. For example, I will take a $25 dollar ASUS DVD drive over a no-name $15 drive every day of the week. I know ASUS generally stands behind its products and has a certain standard of quality. Taking a chance that something might crap out is not worth $10 to me. Same thing with the RAM, really. I'd rather go with something I trust for slightly more money. If I was trying to run the price all the way up to $999 I'm sure I could get it there with a bigger PSU or HDD, but most people would be pleased to pay a little less than they expected and still have it do what they expected. <shrug>
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#20gastamanPosted 9/12/2013 12:06:49 PM(edited)
Nicodimus posted...
I think we're kind of splitting hairs here, for the most part. I'm trying to make a build with somewhat quality parts without spending a ton, so it all depends how you weigh cost vs quality. For example, I will take a $25 dollar ASUS DVD drive over a no-name $15 drive every day of the week. I know ASUS generally stands behind its products and has a certain standard of quality. Taking a chance that something might crap out is not worth $10 to me. Same thing with the RAM, really. I'd rather go with something I trust for slightly more money. If I was trying to run the price all the way up to $999 I'm sure I could get it there with a bigger PSU or HDD, but most people would be pleased to pay a little less than they expected and still have it do what they expected. <shrug>


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1CXej

Who says you have to sacrifice quality? And Samsung and/or LG is a no-name brand ODD for $10 less???

Edit: Or you could use the money saved and instead of getting a better PSU, use it to cover the difference and get a 7970, which will improve performance much more than tightening your timings.
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