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Considering the many versions of DirectX 11...

#41jelly2008(Topic Creator)Posted 9/26/2013 12:27:01 PM
Goldninja posted...
jelly2008 posted...
ibanez_rocker06 posted...
darkstar4221 posted...
jelly2008 posted...
Hmmm.


Well when Microsoft makes Direct X incompatible with other operating systems as well previous versions of Windows, it's simply their way of locking consumers (particularity gamers) to using Windows.

When Microsoft announces that DirectX 11.2 is only exclusive Windows 8.1, you stop and think for a moment that doesn't make sense. Of course it doesn't make sense, it's just Microsoft's way of making sure their monopoly in the PC desktop market is always intact.

When you are a monopoly you can do these type of things and get away with it.

It's this post that explains why Valve is making SteamOS. Valve doesn't like the direction MS is going with Windows and is trying to make the switch from Windows and Directx to OpenGL and Linux. While SteamOS is designed for the living room, Linux developers can modify or recreate SteamOS to be a decent alternative to gaming on a Windows PC.


With the recent developments such as DX 11.2, their corporate monopolistic schemes are evident.


I think the issue is that it is restricted to the video card. Want to enable DX11.2? You need to pay $300 for the latest video card despite the fact that the one you just bought last year works pretty damn well, but is restricted to the ancient 11.1.

That is unless things have changed in the last couple of years.


Yep. This could have been avoided. This is just causing consumers to spend more than necessary.
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#42AsellusPosted 9/26/2013 12:29:45 PM
The problem is that Microsoft restricts the new DX versions to the latest Windows.

The DX11.1/11.2 API actually bring improvements to DX11.0 cards as well


Which is a nice argument in favor of OpenGL - no one withholds access to updates of it in favor of attempting to force you to buy a new OS.
#43jelly2008(Topic Creator)Posted 9/26/2013 12:33:06 PM
Asellus posted...
The problem is that Microsoft restricts the new DX versions to the latest Windows.

The DX11.1/11.2 API actually bring improvements to DX11.0 cards as well


Which is a nice argument in favor of OpenGL - no one withholds access to updates of it in favor of attempting to force you to buy a new OS.


This. I've never seen a new version of OpenGL mandate a new OS. I don't think a new OGL version has mandated new hardware. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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#44jelly2008(Topic Creator)Posted 9/26/2013 12:35:15 PM
And maybe off-topic, but what's AMD Mantle? Is it something similar to that Glide API by 3dfx years ago?
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#45AsellusPosted 9/26/2013 12:40:30 PM
This. I've never seen a new version of OpenGL mandate a new OS. I don't think a new OGL version has mandated new hardware. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

You could still run OGL 4.4 on XP if you like and had capable hardware. Your hardware still needs to be capable of doing a given feature in the first place however.
#46urtvPosted 9/26/2013 12:49:58 PM
directx 11.2 really only for win8.1?
#47SinisterSlayPosted 9/26/2013 12:51:19 PM
urtv posted...
directx 11.2 really only for win8.1?


Yeah but no one will use it, don't worry.

Windows 7 still has a huge market share, so devs will be targeting Win7 for a long time yet.
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#48jelly2008(Topic Creator)Posted 9/26/2013 12:54:34 PM
Asellus posted...
This. I've never seen a new version of OpenGL mandate a new OS. I don't think a new OGL version has mandated new hardware. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

You could still run OGL 4.4 on XP if you like and had capable hardware. Your hardware still needs to be capable of doing a given feature in the first place however.


Yep. Way better than being restricted at the software-level just cause the OS isn't supported..
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#49AsellusPosted 9/26/2013 12:54:46 PM
directx 11.2 really only for win8.1?

Yep.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/06/28/directx-11-2/
#50jelly2008(Topic Creator)Posted 9/26/2013 8:07:55 PM
Asellus posted...
directx 11.2 really only for win8.1?

Yep.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/06/28/directx-11-2/


Yep. A pointless move.
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