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#1prozac786Posted 10/8/2013 4:27:58 AM
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/5LL8n8zTB3/


I know it's overkill but I've dreamed of an overkill build like this for a while, finally getting one.

Main purposes - Extreme Gaming and Media Centre

Also I plan to overclock and don't know much about cooling, any advice on cooling system is welcome
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#2prozac786(Topic Creator)Posted 10/8/2013 7:07:11 AM
Anyone?
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#3ShubPosted 10/8/2013 7:27:07 AM(edited)
- 32 GB of RAM has literally no value for gaming. Get 16 GB, even that's still overkill.
- Two Titans is silly, you get almost the same performance from a pair of GTX 780s, for a lot less money.
- You can stick with a 750W PSU, no need for 1000+W.
- For a 3800 build, a Cooler Master HAF 912 case is a rather poor choice. I suggest you look at the Corsair Obsidian 650D instead, among the options offered by that website.
- You got a sound card, that's nice, but do you have good speakers or headphones to connect to it? If not, it's basically a waste.
- Just get Windows 8, seriously. No need for Windows 8 Professional either, regular Windows 8 will do the job fine. Or if you really, really, really want Windows 7, then just get Home Premium. Note that Windows 7 Home Premium only supports up to 16 GB of RAM, while Windows 8 supports up to 128 GB.
- I hope you're getting a beautiful 27" 2560x1440 monitor such as Dell U2713HM to go with that.

With all that being said, are you not willing to build this yourself? You would save a ton of money. Take a look at this -- note it includes a high-end monitor and is still significantly cheaper: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1MjfC

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#4prozac786(Topic Creator)Posted 10/8/2013 7:48:03 AM
Shub posted...
- 32 GB of RAM has literally no value for gaming. Get 16 GB, even that's still overkill.
- Two Titans is silly, you get almost the same performance from a pair of GTX 780s, for a lot less money.
- You can stick with a 750W PSU, no need for 1000+W.
- For a 3800 build, a Cooler Master HAF 912 case is a rather poor choice. I suggest you look at the Corsair Obsidian 650D instead, among the options offered by that website.
- You got a sound card, that's nice, but do you have good speakers or headphones to connect to it? If not, it's basically a waste.
- Just get Windows 8, seriously. No need for Windows 8 Professional either, regular Windows 8 will do the job fine. Or if you really, really, really want Windows 7, then just get Home Premium. Note that Windows 7 Home Premium only supports up to 16 GB of RAM, while Windows 8 supports up to 128 GB.
- I hope you're getting a beautiful 27" 2560x1440 monitor such as Dell U2713HM to go with that.

With all that being said, are you not willing to build this yourself? You would save a ton of money. Take a look at this -- note it includes a high-end monitor and is still significantly cheaper: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1MjfC


Thank you for the post, you'll be surprized at how many simultaneous things I run, for example multi boxing WoW a lot, while encoding and decoding videos as well as a bunch of other tasks that are very memory hungry, so I thought to go for the bigger memory pool as I won't be upgrading this spec for at least 6-7 years, maybe even more.

I do have logitech 5.1 Z500 surround sound speakers, which are pretty good for a bedroom. I also am thinking of plugging this in straight to my surround sound system via HDMI and use that for sound. So won't really need the card, but would rather have the card just incase I decide to switch speakers.

I believe there is a 15-20% performance difference between a 780 and a Titan, and while that isn't going to be very noticeable today, I believe it will matter in the years to come and right now I plan to get the best hardware available, as it has been a dream of mine to do so. I also don't plan on upgrading this spec for at least 6-7 or maybe even 8 years.

Display wise I will be using a wall mounted 65" Sony LED for gaming and media as I love big screens and have been gaming on 55"-65" size screens for a few years now. And a 44" Sony LED is sitting on my desk for general browsing and general use of the PC.

So I would say I'm set for displays and speakers. I do plan to get a 1440p monitor, just waiting on bigger screens, as 27" isn't doing anything for me right now.

The tower on there isn't the one I will be using. I've actually got a full gaming tower from the XPS 730i which I will be using for this setup.

Building wise I do plan on taking your advice and building it myself as that will probably be cheaper. I just used the site to demonstrate the sort of spec I'm going for. Will switch the PSU to 750w instead of 1000.

I didn't really like Windows 8, prefer Windows 7, but I didn't know it supports only 16GB of RAM. As far as I was aware 64Bit Windows 7 supports 128GB of RAM. But I will reverify that. Plus I plan to buy my Windows 7 Ultimate license off ebay for around 50, won't be paying 139 for it.

Any advice on sort of cooling systems to use? I definitely plan to overclock
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#5halomonkey1_3_5Posted 10/8/2013 7:54:03 AM
Windows 8+Classic Shell(or any "start menu" type program)>>>>>>>>>Windows 7
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#6ShubPosted 10/8/2013 8:03:28 AM
prozac786 posted...
I didn't really like Windows 8, prefer Windows 7, but I didn't know it supports only 16GB of RAM. As far as I was aware 64Bit Windows 7 supports 128GB of RAM. But I will reverify that. Plus I plan to buy my Windows 7 Ultimate license off ebay for around 50, won't be paying 139 for it.


Windows 7 Home Premium supports 16 GB.
Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate support 192 GB.
You'll probably want Windows 8 anyway if you plan on keeping this build for the next few years, as there are already things out or coming out for Windows 8 that Windows 7 will not get, such as Direct3D 11.2. It's a better OS and trust me, you'll spend only a tiny amount of time in the Start screen. Everything else is basically the same as in Windows 7, except it boots faster and gaming performance is generally a bit better.

prozac786 posted...
The tower on there isn't the one I will be using. I've actually got a full gaming tower from the XPS 730i which I will be using for this setup.


That's probably a bad idea, Dell towers are notoriously non-compliant with standards and you may have trouble fitting a complete, high-end aftermarket PC in it. You're welcome to try, though, but a proper aftermarket case will be enormously better in many ways.

prozac786 posted...
I do plan to get a 1440p monitor, just waiting on bigger screens, as 27" isn't doing anything for me right now.


There are 30" 2560x1600 monitors out there if you want. It's kind of a shame to run such a setup at 1920x1080 but if you prefer larger screens, I guess you're stuck with that.

prozac786 posted...
get the best hardware available


No i7-4960X? The 4770K will be better at gaming, but the 4960X will be a lot better at things like video encoding.

Any advice on sort of cooling systems to use? I definitely plan to overclock


You can check the build I posted, it has a nice cooler.
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#7StormKMDPosted 10/8/2013 8:14:40 AM
Everything Shub has said makes sense, TC. I would say that if you really want 32GB RAM, and you have the money, go for it. Bragging rights. But it kind of is a waste, you really only need 16.

Anyways, Windows 8 is much better than Windows 7 IMO. Everything loads faster, it boots quicker, etc, etc. I have had a few issues with BSOD's and stuff, but that might have been driver problems, idk. Get Windows 8 instead.
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#8prozac786(Topic Creator)Posted 10/8/2013 8:15:15 AM
Thanks again, I'll go with the cooler in the link and Windows 8.

Still deciding between processors, I'm in two minds whether to prioritize gaming or video encoding. I'll probably go with the 4770k

Tower wise I'm in love with the XPS 730 model. But it is a full gaming tower, so I expect everything should fit in theory. I will test it though to be sure, as I'm getting all the parts myself anyway. So if I have any issues it will simply be a case of purchasing another tower.

Display wise I do agree that running such a setup at only 1080p is a shame. I'll have a look at what's available in the 1440p and 1600p monitors. Chances are I'll end up waiting a year or so before getting these monitors, just so bigger sizes can be released. I will definitely get one though
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#9aak57Posted 10/8/2013 8:41:19 AM
I doubt they're going to release 1440p or 1600p monitors at any size bigger than what they are now, considering those resolutions have been around for a while and it's not like there'd be any reason to start now (especially with 4K becoming a thing).
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#10NicodimusPosted 10/8/2013 8:44:09 AM
aak57 posted...
I doubt they're going to release 1440p or 1600p monitors at any size bigger than what they are now, considering those resolutions have been around for a while and it's not like there'd be any reason to start now (especially with 4K becoming a thing).


Agreed. They are made at a size with a specific viewing distance in mind (that being very close, probably in the 1-3 foot range.) Making them much bigger would make them worse for someone sitting at a desk.
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