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Sword of the Stars - The Pit is actually a really good game

#11cody4783Posted 10/10/2013 2:27:26 PM
As with most rouge-like/randomized dungeon games: I desperately WANT to like it, but I'm so put off by how quickly and often the randomizer will 100% screw you over that I just can't appreciate it.

As others have mentioned...It's the sort of genre that skill can only take you so far. You can be an expert at the game, but if you go 5-10 levels and never see food or bullets, and then get swarmed by high-level/unusually tough enemies, you're SOL. No amount of skill will make your knife magically win, or keep you from starving.

I had one run where I was doing amazingly well---Had TONS of bullets, a half dozen repair kits for just about everything, some really nice weapons---And most importantly: Power Armor that made me neigh immune to damage from majority of enemies. I was doing pretty damn good--Even hadn't been d***ed over by machine hacks or traps.

How did it end? I went the better 3/4ths of my run and never found food. I found a couple bits of bread and a ration near the end, but all the power armor and bullets in the world aren't going to prevent starvation. I could loot anything I wanted just about, so if there WAS food, I wouldn't have had an issue getting it. There just simply wasn't any.
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#12biohazard1775Posted 10/10/2013 2:55:33 PM
Carbon_Deoxxys posted...
do you guys like it better barebones? or with the DLC? i dunno if i like all these powers




It's better with the DLC.
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#13Freelance_WolfPosted 10/10/2013 3:00:25 PM(edited)
Carbon_Deoxxys posted...
do you guys like it better barebones? or with the DLC? i dunno if i like all these powers


I heard the game is a lot harder with the DLC, and once you buy it, you can't revert back if the difficulty is too much. I don't have the DLC myself. Not keen on making it harder.

I agree that the game can really screw you over. I've never been able to craft anything due to never finding all the items I needed, and you could go several floors without ever finding one scrap of food. It's still a fun game though, but the RNG is pretty out of whack.

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#14Carbon_Deoxxys(Topic Creator)Posted 10/10/2013 7:31:38 PM
cody4783 posted...
As with most rouge-like/randomized dungeon games: I desperately WANT to like it, but I'm so put off by how quickly and often the randomizer will 100% screw you over that I just can't appreciate it.
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LOL still will probably never screw you as hard as Binding of Isaac:Wrath of the Lamb does, EVERY GAME.
#15TheFeshPincePosted 10/10/2013 7:50:54 PM
Ya it's good times. Too bad it's not on mobile devices, because I would play it a lot more.
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#16notSFFPosted 10/12/2013 7:11:44 PM
Honestly, I never really understood how people complain about a Roguelike's dependency on the RNG. That's part of what makes Roguelikes what they are.
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#17Carbon_Deoxxys(Topic Creator)Posted 10/12/2013 8:24:24 PM
i got both versions of the pit so I could have a vanila version and a chocolate one
#18SteamsterPosted 10/12/2013 8:33:56 PM(edited)
Carbon_Deoxxys posted...
cody4783 posted...
As with most rouge-like/randomized dungeon games: I desperately WANT to like it, but I'm so put off by how quickly and often the randomizer will 100% screw you over that I just can't appreciate it.
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LOL still will probably never screw you as hard as Binding of Isaac:Wrath of the Lamb does, EVERY GAME.


The problem is that scrubs don't do nearly enough to maximize their odds then blame the game when they didn't try hard enough.

People getting 500-0 streaks in fresh BoI+DLC files is proof enough that luck is largely irrelevant. Get good or get out, that's how these games operate.
#19Carbon_Deoxxys(Topic Creator)Posted 10/13/2013 12:37:04 AM
Steamster posted...
Carbon_Deoxxys posted...
cody4783 posted...
As with most rouge-like/randomized dungeon games: I desperately WANT to like it, but I'm so put off by how quickly and often the randomizer will 100% screw you over that I just can't appreciate it.
.


LOL still will probably never screw you as hard as Binding of Isaac:Wrath of the Lamb does, EVERY GAME.


The problem is that scrubs don't do nearly enough to maximize their odds then blame the game when they didn't try hard enough.

People getting 500-0 streaks in fresh BoI+DLC files is proof enough that luck is largely irrelevant. Get good or get out, that's how these games operate.


yea except you can use mods for that, and it counts towards achievements and everything.