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$300 for a new CPU and motherboard. What should I get?

#11CC RicersPosted 10/9/2013 8:30:32 PM
Also, agree with buying them from Microcenter if possible. They can actually compete well in CPU prices with online vendors (even after you include the tax).
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#12BowsaaPosted 10/9/2013 8:32:49 PM
CC Ricers posted...
It's closer to an i5 per thread. The 1230 v2 is based on the Ivy Bridge core. (original 1230 is Sandy Bridge and no integrated graphics)

Altogether the entire chip is like a locked i7 in performance but for the price of a unlocked i5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286


Hot damn, that's awesome. Actually a really tempting upgrade o-o I had been holding off since I thought it was as good as my i3 (by core) but since it's not, it may be worth it.
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#13CC RicersPosted 10/9/2013 8:39:42 PM
If you have an i3 it's definitely a good upgrade. If you can get by with the Sandy Bridge one I think that's $10 less and you will use your own card for the graphics.

I have a 3570k at 4.4 Ghz so I'm still on the fence about getting one.
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#14Devil_wings00Posted 10/9/2013 8:46:15 PM
Since no one has mentioned AMD you could get an 8350 and any number of sub 100 dollar boards. In terms of gaming it's up there with 3770's etc.

I personally have an intel but just throwing it out there.
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#15BowsaaPosted 10/9/2013 8:56:08 PM(edited)
CC Ricers posted...
If you have an i3 it's definitely a good upgrade. If you can get by with the Sandy Bridge one I think that's $10 less and you will use your own card for the graphics.


Indeed. I probably won't bite, though. My computer's still fine for what I do. It's really annoying that i3s aren't overclockable, though :| If I could jump to 4.4-4.5 GHz on this I'd be a very happy man.

CC Ricers posted...
I have a 3570k at 4.4 Ghz so I'm still on the fence about getting one.


Waiting is probably a better option. Your CPU won't have issues with any games for the time being, and once it does there will be better options for a better price.

Devil_wings00 posted...
Since no one has mentioned AMD you could get an 8350 and any number of sub 100 dollar boards. In terms of gaming it's up there with 3770's etc.


Only when games take advantage of all of the core
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#16Devil_wings00Posted 10/9/2013 9:29:25 PM
Bowsaa posted...
CC Ricers posted...
If you have an i3 it's definitely a good upgrade. If you can get by with the Sandy Bridge one I think that's $10 less and you will use your own card for the graphics.


Indeed. I probably won't bite, though. My computer's still fine for what I do. It's really annoying that i3s aren't overclockable, though :| If I could jump to 4.4-4.5 GHz on this I'd be a very happy man.

CC Ricers posted...
I have a 3570k at 4.4 Ghz so I'm still on the fence about getting one.


Waiting is probably a better option. Your CPU won't have issues with any games for the time being, and once it does there will be better options for a better price.

Devil_wings00 posted...
Since no one has mentioned AMD you could get an 8350 and any number of sub 100 dollar boards. In terms of gaming it's up there with 3770's etc.


Only when games take advantage of all of the core


Not true. Just go look at the tek syndicate videos. He did pretty thorough testing with 8350's VS. 3570k/3770's and when it came to gaming the 8350 not only traded blows with the Intel chips but often beat them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVGwj1_Qno

Go look for yourself.

Here's a couple linus tech tips videos doing the same thing but with OC's and while it wasn't as favorable towards the AMD cpu in his test it wasn't insanely worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6UcsVG56g

Also lets talk about price to get an overclocking ready for intel. Getting z87/77 + an I5 is more expensive then getting an overclockable AMD board + an 8350. So it's better performance for money on AMD's side.

I'm not some fanboy defending AMD (I have a 3570k right now lol) but just saying it's not like the AMD 8350 is some kind of awful chip that isn't even in the same realm as the Intel chips. It's a perfectly viable option for gaming and offers benefits that intel chips may not have when it comes to things beyond gaming, for it's price. Not to mention that as games become more multi-core aware that the AMD chip may last longer into the future then a 3570k/4670k but who knows on that count.
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#17OmegaDL50Posted 10/9/2013 10:26:06 PM
In multithreaded apps the 8350 has some advantages but beyond this. The Intel has more performance in everything else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6UcsVG56g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHnsfIJtZ2o

To add the video shows the i5 3570 at 4.2Ghz against a 8350 at 4.6Ghz, that is a 400Mhz difference at the i5 is getting almost the same performance at a lesser clock. So put that into consideration.

As for the Tek Syndicate comparison, I'm just letting you know it's been proven across multiple forums and hardware that numbers they use are very dubious and inconsistent.

Refer to PraetorXyn's post in this topic = http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/916373-pc/67213005 and the source - http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/183p2x/i_asked_overclockerscoms_matt_bidinger_what_he/
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#18el_cheato(Topic Creator)Posted 10/10/2013 4:12:28 PM
I do happen to live near a Micro Center. And that Xeon E3-1230 is looking daaaaaamn fine. I suppose I could save up a little more and shell out for that, if it will work with a reasonably priced mobo.
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#19CC RicersPosted 10/10/2013 4:20:37 PM
I think I'll get the Xeon eventually. It'll come in handy for some of the music production and video encoding I do. Plus I read some experiences with this CPU in other forums and it's possible to increase the turbo boost on all cores in some motherboards.
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#20PhilOnDezPosted 10/10/2013 4:21:31 PM
Be wary of the 1230v2. Nothing wrong with that processor itself, but some mobo vendors intentionally lock out Xeon chips from running on their consumer boards in order to push their server lines. Just do a bit of googling to find a list of mobos compatible with it and pick from that, if you just order whatever's cheap you're basically playing the silicon lottery.
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