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What do you think is the best Grand Strategy game?

#11xanthan1Posted 10/14/2013 8:31:31 PM(edited)
Askeladd posted...
Requiem posted...
Would Civ games count, though?


Yes.


Except Civ is 4X, not Grand Strategy. Can people not tell the difference between the 2?
#12Sienrurouni(Topic Creator)Posted 10/14/2013 8:34:42 PM
xanthan1 posted...
Askeladd posted...
Requiem posted...
Would Civ games count, though?


Yes.


Except Civ is 4X, not Grand Strategy. Can people not tell the difference between the 2?


Can there not be crossover between the two? If something deals with strategy on a grand level, such as nations, worlds, or whatever, then it certainly seems like it would be a grand strategy game.
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#13AnimorganimatePosted 10/14/2013 8:40:26 PM
I don't feel like a game like Civilization (or most standard 4X games) have enough . . . what's the word . . . details, or micromanagement, to be considered grand strategy. That being said, I really like Crusader Kings 2 and Distant Worlds.
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#14HighOnPhazonPosted 10/14/2013 8:41:54 PM
Civilization 5: Brave New World

No other Strategy Game on PC has drawn me in quite like this.
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#15ZukkusPosted 10/14/2013 8:43:03 PM
Civ and Total War games aren't really Grand Strategy.

Civ is 4X, Total War is turn-based strategy/real-time tactic hybrid.

Grand strategy games are far more complex.
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#16I_I_I_IPosted 10/14/2013 9:10:24 PM
Let's not be too petty about our semantics.

These are just games, and people are trying to build up as many examples as are worth mentioning.

It really doesn't matter if it's not perfect, it's just a forum discussion.
#17Last Grand MageX2Posted 10/14/2013 9:34:10 PM
Zukkus posted...
Civ and Total War games aren't really Grand Strategy.

Civ is 4X, Total War is turn-based strategy/real-time tactic hybrid.

Grand strategy games are far more complex.


4X games can very well be grand strategy games, and grand strategy games are not defined by their complexity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_strategy_wargame
A grand strategy wargame is a wargame that places focus on grand strategy: military strategy at the level of movement and use of an entire nation state or empire's resources.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X
4X games are a genre of strategy video game in which players control an empire and "explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate".


Explain to me how the two are mutually exclusive.

Oh and the Total War series? They're 4x grand strategy games with RTS elements. Genres are not like species classifications, they are not scientific, and it's very easy for something to mix elements from different genres.
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#182Dhas_a_MIGRANEPosted 10/14/2013 9:36:19 PM
Civ 5 if Civ counts. If not I haven't played any of the others that people usually mean when they say Grand Strategy.
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#19jessica73Posted 10/14/2013 9:55:25 PM
Crusader Kings 2 is life itself ._.
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