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When is the best time to buy a new CPU, and which one?

#1XxTwisted26xXPosted 10/19/2013 2:34:11 PM
Are there any new CPUs being released soon that I should wait to buy? Im asking because I just bought a new GPU the AMD 7970 and the new 7990 just came out :(. The only thing holding me back from creating a truly awesome gaming rig is my CPU, so I'm planning on upgrading it, but I can wait until Newegg BIG sales or any new CPUs being released (liek how the new 7990 came out).


I was thinking about buy the new AMD 8 core CPU (if there's no better CPUs coming out soon) since people are saying games ported from PS4 and Xbone1 will be better optimized for it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=100&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo


Here are my specs:

Computer Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.3GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 69W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80637i53350P

Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Case: NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100351SR Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC with Boost
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#2HighOnPhazonPosted 10/19/2013 2:41:03 PM
You need to upgrade that probably. I think that's the same socket as my CPU.
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#3aak57Posted 10/19/2013 2:44:22 PM
The 7990 has been out for quite some time, hasn't it? Are you thinking of the R9 290X?
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#4jakeDiLLaPosted 10/19/2013 3:19:31 PM
I would get an i5 3570k. Not sure how much new games are gonna stress CPU's but I haven't had any games bottleneck due to it. It's a great overclocker provided you have good cooling.
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#5Snuckie7Posted 10/19/2013 3:25:06 PM
The next CPU upgrade for you would be an unlocked i7.
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#6MasterDonGeroPosted 10/19/2013 3:32:28 PM
XxTwisted26xX posted...
people are saying games ported from PS4 and Xbone1 will be better optimized for it


Don't believe anything people tell you. Do your own research.
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#7Last Grand MageX2Posted 10/19/2013 3:48:48 PM
Snuckie7 posted...
The next CPU upgrade for you would be an unlocked i7.


This is the best advice. No point in upgrading to an i5-3570k when you already have an i5, and an unlocked i7 is going to be the best processor that you're able to get for that motherboard, not to mention being an excellent processor as well.

This is going to be the processor you want to watch for a sale on:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
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#8XxTwisted26xX(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 8:43:10 PM
Last Grand MageX2 posted...
Snuckie7 posted...
The next CPU upgrade for you would be an unlocked i7.


This is the best advice. No point in upgrading to an i5-3570k when you already have an i5, and an unlocked i7 is going to be the best processor that you're able to get for that motherboard, not to mention being an excellent processor as well.

This is going to be the processor you want to watch for a sale on:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501


Holy moly thats expensive! How come the speed of this is lower than the AMD, which is 4.0, and is cheaper? Sorry im a noob at all this still haha
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#9SnadadosPosted 10/19/2013 9:13:26 PM(edited)
Core speeds aren't that good a way to determine if one CPU is better than the other.
Even at lower core speeds Intel CPUs out perform AMD CPUs per core.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=551


If you live near a microcenter you can get an i7 3770k for $250

http://www.microcenter.com/product/388575/Core_i7_3770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1155_Boxed_Processor


Even though the AMD CPU is cheaper, you're going to also need to get a new motherboard which makes the prices about even.
If you go with the i7 3770k you will not need a new motherboard and will be getting a better CPU.
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#10-GhosT-Posted 10/19/2013 9:18:40 PM
In short, the Intel chips usually have much more L2 and L3 caches, which means they can stock many common operations in their memory, which considerably shortens load times for many operations.

Since a processor can effectively do over 3-4 billion operations a second, stocking some data in the different levels of cache will allow your processor to be much faster than a processor with lower cache memory.

Frequency determines how many operations you can do each second; cache memory determines how many mundane actions you can make the processor load instantly rather than going to search for it in memory.

so, a 4ghz AMD chip will (most of the time) not be faster than an Intel chipset with more memory cache.

Throw in the fact that most i5-i7 motherboards have better FSB's and easier overclocking, and that will give you an overall better experience on Intel (at a premium price, of course).

AMD is great if you're on a budget, but Intel have been closing the gap between price/efficiency with the i5's and recently, the i7's.

Throw in the next fact that the "K" models of processors are overclocking beasts, and you can easily crush AMD processors with relative ease, 100% of the time.

Not discrediting AMD at all, but ever since the Phenom II, Intel has been cutting price and upping quality steadily.
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