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Why do developers blame piracy for low sales

#41YukitoRamboPosted 10/20/2013 11:28:45 AM
JKatarn posted...

Because it's typically included in some "piracy doesn't harm anyone" diatribe - if you're interested enough in a game to download and play it, you should be paying the proper license fee - I don't buy the "I wouldn't have bought it anyway" - obviously someone has some interest in a game if they'd seek it out on a torrent site.


INTEREST != PURCHASE OPPORTUNITY

OK, so I had interest in a Toyota Camry, so I went to a showroom. I took a testdrive only to find out that the driving feel sucks. Then I looked at the engine and I noticed that some stuff are prone to cracks and rust which means that performance will go to hell in 5 years. That should mean that I'm obligated to take it home regardless eh?

There's a reason why "I wouldn't have bought it anyway" is often cited; BECAUSE THAT IS THE ******* TRUTH. I won't deny that there are opportunists out there who'd pirate everything as long as they can get away with it, but you're gonna assume that there's so many of those a-holes out there? Why then do big companies continue to court PC gamers and make games for it? Why do you think they went out of their way to imitate Steam?

I suppose if you ever had some interest for some gaming turds which was built up because of all that marketing and advertising thrown into your face, that would ALLLLWAYS MEAN DESIRE TO OWN IT, even when you found out that that it IS a turd later on. What a load of bollocks. I can't think of any other reason why anyone would want to defend this crazy notion except if they're paid to do so(viral marketers).
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#42overkillwfo1978Posted 10/20/2013 11:31:53 AM
DaedalusEx posted...
JKatarn posted...
I don't buy the "I wouldn't have bought it anyway" - obviously someone has some interest in a game if they'd seek it out on a torrent site.


Does this mean you'd be willing to pay for everything you search for on the internet if it wasn't available for free? Newspaper articles, music videos, porn? You've shown an interest by taking the time to search for them, so that must mean they have monetary value to you, right? eyeroll.gif


LOL. What a terrible "argument". Newspaper articles, music videos and free porn sites get their money from ad revenue and certain "pay" premium content if the user chooses to. That media is free as it is offered for free by the company that is providing it. Torrent sites are illegally posing copyrighted files that cost money. The eyeroll.gif is pointed directly back at your insanely horrible post.
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#43overkillwfo1978Posted 10/20/2013 11:35:50 AM
YukitoRambo posted...
JKatarn posted...

Because it's typically included in some "piracy doesn't harm anyone" diatribe - if you're interested enough in a game to download and play it, you should be paying the proper license fee - I don't buy the "I wouldn't have bought it anyway" - obviously someone has some interest in a game if they'd seek it out on a torrent site.


INTEREST != PURCHASE OPPORTUNITY

OK, so I had interest in a Toyota Camry, so I went to a showroom. I took a testdrive only to find out that the driving feel sucks. Then I looked at the engine and I noticed that some stuff are prone to cracks and rust which means that performance will go to hell in 5 years. That should mean that I'm obligated to take it home regardless eh?


So, with the Toyota Camry, if you were to try to keep it forever after your "test drive" you would be in jail. The real comparison is the equivalent of you sneaking on a car lot in the middle of the night to "test drive" the car, you find out you "hate" it... but take it home and keep it anyways. That is what game pirates are doing on torrent sites. Not legally test driving at all..
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#44AsucaHayashiPosted 10/20/2013 11:36:30 AM
OK, so I had interest in a Toyota Camry, so I went to a showroom. I took a testdrive only to find out that the driving feel sucks. Then I looked at the engine and I noticed that some stuff are prone to cracks and rust which means that performance will go to hell in 5 years. That should mean that I'm obligated to take it home regardless eh?

your analogy sucks just fyi..
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#45YukitoRamboPosted 10/20/2013 11:39:56 AM
overkillwfo1978 posted...

So, with the Toyota Camry, if you were to try to keep it forever after your "test drive" you would be in jail. The real comparison is the equivalent of you sneaking on a car lot in the middle of the night to "test drive" the car, you find out you "hate" it... but take it home and keep it anyways. That is what game pirates are doing on torrent sites. Not legally test driving at all..


Last time I checked, cars can't be duplicated easily with next to no cost like SOFTWARE.
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#46overkillwfo1978Posted 10/20/2013 11:41:53 AM
AsucaHayashi posted...
OK, so I had interest in a Toyota Camry, so I went to a showroom. I took a testdrive only to find out that the driving feel sucks. Then I looked at the engine and I noticed that some stuff are prone to cracks and rust which means that performance will go to hell in 5 years. That should mean that I'm obligated to take it home regardless eh?

your analogy sucks just fyi..


Yeah. These people trying to defend piracy by comparing it to completely legal actions are embarrassingly laughable. I hope they never end up in court and try to use comparisons like the ones posted here to justify their crimes.... the judge will openly facepalm in court.
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#47overkillwfo1978Posted 10/20/2013 11:44:38 AM(edited)
YukitoRambo posted...
overkillwfo1978 posted...

So, with the Toyota Camry, if you were to try to keep it forever after your "test drive" you would be in jail. The real comparison is the equivalent of you sneaking on a car lot in the middle of the night to "test drive" the car, you find out you "hate" it... but take it home and keep it anyways. That is what game pirates are doing on torrent sites. Not legally test driving at all..


Last time I checked, cars can't be duplicated easily with next to no cost like SOFTWARE.

2 questions:

1) Why in the hell did you make the car comparison then? and 2
2) So that makes stealing it ok? I hope you never end up in court. Your arguments are beyond terrible.
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#48DarkZV2BetaPosted 10/20/2013 12:12:30 PM
So that they don't get fired for making a ****ty game.
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#49sonicteam2k1Posted 10/20/2013 12:23:32 PM
cuz they don't understand Lord Gaben's concept. Give the people a better deal than the pirates then they'll buy your games. This is sooo true. There have been times i was going to pirate a game then checked the price on Steam and was like I can have this game instantly and not have to worry about it working and cracks...etc, so I would just buy it. And it's cheap to boot.
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#50TheMKDestroyerPosted 10/24/2013 1:37:33 AM
overkillwfo1978, thank you for coming in and saying everything I wanted to say. Now I don't have to, lol. The excuses pirates have are so terrible. I don't understand how they think because they don't want the game that they should get it for free while someone who does want the game has to pay.