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Anyone here about what happened to Total Biscuit? More YouTube drama.

#21AsellusPosted 10/20/2013 4:41:54 PM
If you have the money to fight it, maybe you can get it back... it's not always worth it to do it though.

TB almost certainly does, I'd hazard a wager that his production company's probably a lot more lawyered up than some indie dev in Montreal.

Just really incredibly dumb on their part.
#22arleasPosted 10/20/2013 4:50:44 PM
From: Asellus | #021
TB almost certainly does, I'd hazard a wager that his production company's probably a lot more lawyered up than some indie dev in Montreal.


Yeah, for him it's not going to be a difficult fight either. It's just a matter of taking it through the process.

It's just for the average guy, even if you could win, it's not worth the time and money invested to fight it most of the time. I've seen a FEW people get videos reinstated by writing back to counter the charge with a boilerplate "Fair use" claim. I think at that point it puts the original claimant back on the defensive and they have to prove that the counter claim is false...

or something like that... I haven't done any serious research into it.

I just searched a little and turns out there's another high profile case that recently happened:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/09/27/226834651/record-label-picks-a-fight-over-copyright-with-the-wrong-guy

Apparently the guy in question is a copyright attorney and he's suing the record label for damages... it should be interesting to see how this turns out.
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#23TimePharaohPosted 10/20/2013 4:53:28 PM
arleas posted...
From: Asellus | #021
TB almost certainly does, I'd hazard a wager that his production company's probably a lot more lawyered up than some indie dev in Montreal.


Yeah, for him it's not going to be a difficult fight either. It's just a matter of taking it through the process.

It's just for the average guy, even if you could win, it's not worth the time and money invested to fight it most of the time. I've seen a FEW people get videos reinstated by writing back to counter the charge with a boilerplate "Fair use" claim. I think at that point it puts the original claimant back on the defensive and they have to prove that the counter claim is false...

or something like that... I haven't done any serious research into it.

I just searched a little and turns out there's another high profile case that recently happened:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/09/27/226834651/record-label-picks-a-fight-over-copyright-with-the-wrong-guy

Apparently the guy in question is a copyright attorney and he's suing the record label for damages... it should be interesting to see how this turns out.


Can you actually reply now? It used to be that you got a strike, and your options were to accept it....or prove you owned the content (with a threat that if you don't actually own it and you try this, they're going to sue your ass)
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#24JonWood007Posted 10/20/2013 4:59:31 PM
I was just watching about this. Absolutely wrong IMO, and is basically censorship.

I hope it gets overturned, and something is eventually done about youtube's policies. It seems absolutely stupid how people can abuse youtube's copyright claim service like this. It's also not the first time I've heard of this happening.
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#25Chaos_MissilePosted 10/20/2013 5:07:41 PM
ArthasReborn posted...
Tyranius2 posted...
Youtube isn't moderated. It's automated. I could go into a video right now and flag it hundreds of times for whatever reason until it's taken down. It's ridiculous.


Ugh. I remember a butt-ton of Persona-related videos were flagged and removed from YouTube. Some actually did infringe upon copyright, like soundtracks, but Atlus never really seemed to bother going after those. Others were perfectly legitimate Let's Plays or anything else with the word "Persona" in the title.

The copyright claims weren't even submitted by Atlus; it was under the name of some singer, though common theory was a bunch of copyright trolls were only using her name.


I still remember that: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672653

On topic, I feel like this relates: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/916373-pc/67552701

Google should concentrate more on fixing their copyright issues on YouTube than forcing people to use their real names on the internet.
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#26biohazard1775Posted 10/20/2013 5:17:19 PM
lmao
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