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To wait or not to wait? Some concerns and thoughts...

#1daveyman23Posted 10/28/2013 7:50:25 AM
I currently have a GTX 560 in my computer, and it is definitely a solid card. In march it will be two years old, and I am prepared to buy a new card. The new R9 series looks decent, however I'm not sure if that is the best route for me.

Ideally I would be spending as much as an 280x, but I have read that it is just a rebranded 7970. Why would I want to invest in old hardware? the 290x is new but its too expensive for me, so what are some of my choices? Wait for nvidias 800 series? Isn't there supposed to be some big change coming with them like 20nm something or am I mistaken about that?

And then there is the issue of AMD in general. I have had great success with Nvidia so far (and my GPU is made by Galaxy, lol) and a lot of reviews on cards like the 7870 or 7950 say how quickly these cards died or how the drivers screwed everything up etc. Things I haven't necessarily had to deal with.

So I guess what I am asking is it worth it to wait? Or will I be pleasantly surprised with the 280x?
#2dekouPosted 10/28/2013 8:32:55 AM
You could just buy a 700 series card from NVidia. Sure, 800 series will come out next year, but it'll overshadow current AMD cards as much as it'll overshadow current NVidia cards.
#3BogePosted 10/28/2013 11:21:39 AM
Just keep in mind that no matter what you buy and when you buy it, tomorrow it will be cheaper and there will be something better.
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#4Bazooka_PenguinPosted 10/28/2013 11:24:48 AM
If you're going to get a 280x, wait. They're supposedly going to update it with a more efficient die. Pretty much the same thing, but consumes a little less power
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#5daveyman23(Topic Creator)Posted 10/28/2013 1:27:13 PM
Bazooka_Penguin posted...
If you're going to get a 280x, wait. They're supposedly going to update it with a more efficient die. Pretty much the same thing, but consumes a little less power


This is the kind of thing I am curious about. With maxwell being 20nm whatevers, will the increase in performance be worth it to wait it out? Or will it be just like 600 to 700 series boost in performance.
#6Logical_OnePosted 10/28/2013 1:32:55 PM
daveyman23 posted...
Bazooka_Penguin posted...
If you're going to get a 280x, wait. They're supposedly going to update it with a more efficient die. Pretty much the same thing, but consumes a little less power


This is the kind of thing I am curious about. With maxwell being 20nm whatevers, will the increase in performance be worth it to wait it out? Or will it be just like 600 to 700 series boost in performance.


It should definitely be more dramatic than the 600 to 700 series shift.
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#7KamenRiderBladePosted 10/28/2013 1:35:15 PM
Nvidia is on a similar cadence to Intel

The Tick-Tock strategy.

Since Maxwell will be a new architecture + die shrink, it should be a huge "Tock"

However, with new big releases, prices should go crazy high again in the name of profits.

That's what I'm worried about.
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#8daveyman23(Topic Creator)Posted 10/28/2013 1:36:44 PM
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nvidia is on a similar cadence to Intel

The Tick-Tock strategy.

Since Maxwell will be a new architecture + die shrink, it should be a huge "Tock"

However, with new big releases, prices should go crazy high again in the name of profits.

That's what I'm worried about.


Right right. I'm having a hard time making a decision >_<
#9KamenRiderBladePosted 10/28/2013 1:54:56 PM
daveyman23 posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Nvidia is on a similar cadence to Intel

The Tick-Tock strategy.

Since Maxwell will be a new architecture + die shrink, it should be a huge "Tock"

However, with new big releases, prices should go crazy high again in the name of profits.

That's what I'm worried about.


Right right. I'm having a hard time making a decision >_<


You're going to run into the same problem cause both AMD / Nvidia are on a roughly 1 year cycle for new release of products.

Since Maxwell won't be out until next year, I would rather get a mid range GPU that I can be content with.

I'd never waste money on a high end GPU / CPU

Mid end is usually where the best bang for your buck is, no matter which company it is.

So with that in mind, my recommendation is to go mid end.


http://sdrv.ms/16H8FbT

Here is my personal GPU Tier Chart derived from Tom's Hardware GPU Tier Chart's


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

My Tier Chart is easier to read and compare, especially if you download it and view it in excel with split frames to allow viewing two portions of the same sheet.


Anyways, if you look at recent history, yearly minor revisions "Ticks" generally shift performance tiers down by 1 while major architectural and/or die shrinks shift performance tiers down by 2 or more.

Look at the chart yourself if you want to see the evidence over time.
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#10daveyman23(Topic Creator)Posted 10/28/2013 2:07:18 PM
Is the 270x cost effective at $200? And if I were to choose one, which of these three?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202050

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125476

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761

leaning towards the sapphire personally, but what do you guys think?