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I'm a Nvidia owner who is going to own Thief and BF4 both will use Mantle... hmm

#21_GRIM_FANDANGO_Posted 11/14/2013 4:04:43 PM(edited)
I call bull#$% on 20-30 frames boost. Though who knows, at this point it might still be a sizable increase in performance. Still, you have to be skeptical with the little information that we have about it.
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#22Bazooka_PenguinPosted 11/14/2013 4:04:38 PM
ShadowThaReaper posted...
protools1983 posted...
Wait what? Am I missing something? I am incredibly excited about the new Thief. Is there something I don't know? Whats with all the hate?


http://i.imgur.com/pK3myV8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mmNeIEA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QYAXmkU.jpg

That sounds pretty horrible
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#23daemon_danPosted 11/14/2013 4:06:37 PM
Bazooka_Penguin posted...
It won't affect the performance of your card. Mantle will just boost the performance of GCN AMD cards.

Though AMD has stated that Mantle isn't tied down to GCN, so maybe Nvidia will contribute to Mantle too


If this happens, as well as Intel maybe throwing in something to optimize to their chips, particularly with hyperthreading, then we will see HUGE gains.
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#24someguyshandPosted 11/14/2013 4:09:50 PM
ShadowThaReaper posted...
protools1983 posted...
Wait what? Am I missing something? I am incredibly excited about the new Thief. Is there something I don't know? Whats with all the hate?


http://i.imgur.com/pK3myV8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mmNeIEA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QYAXmkU.jpg


I can't say I've played too much of the Thief games, but even from the little I've played. this is like the devs pissing all over the franchise and saying that they are doing it good.
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#25ChromaticAngelPosted 11/14/2013 4:29:18 PM
someguyshand posted...
ShadowThaReaper posted...
protools1983 posted...
Wait what? Am I missing something? I am incredibly excited about the new Thief. Is there something I don't know? Whats with all the hate?


http://i.imgur.com/pK3myV8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mmNeIEA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QYAXmkU.jpg


I can't say I've played too much of the Thief games, but even from the little I've played. this is like the devs pissing all over the franchise and saying that they are doing it good.


while I agree with this in general, one change I am happy about is no supernatural stuff.
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#26AsellusPosted 11/14/2013 4:30:49 PM
So will my APU laptop (in sig) benefit from mantle, or am I reading into this wrong?

Nope, only GCN-based chips of which the 7670m is not.
#27ThescyyPosted 11/14/2013 5:13:25 PM
The main thing they seem to be talking about is reduced CPU overhead which will allow lower end CPUs to push high end cards much more effectively. I'll be interested to see how much it helps performance for machines that aren't CPU bottlenecked.
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#28MasterDonGeroPosted 11/14/2013 9:56:10 PM
JKatarn posted...
DarkZV2Beta posted...
Mantle might be amazing. It might also be a whole bunch of hot air.
It's incredibly likely, though, that the biggest improvement Mantle will provide is CPU scaling.


The truth will probably be somewhere in-between, I predict a scenario where AMD cards will see a few fps more than a similar Nvidia card in certain games, but it won't be earth-shattering.


My thoughts exactly.
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#29SM1LER7Posted 11/14/2013 10:24:12 PM
Mantle will also improve CPU utilization:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-apu-developer-conference-mantle,25079.html
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#30fire2boxPosted 11/14/2013 11:34:26 PM
Ryohazuki10469 posted...
Just a random thought, why do so many people hate on AMD? Nvidia makes so much proprietary crap and AMD actually tries to push things forward like with mantle. Like stated above, they're willing to make Mantle open for Nvidia, and have said its not tied down to GCN.


If mantle turns out to be good as some people hope, I say they should trade physX and Mantle.

They can still duke it out via GPU chips but go lax software side.
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