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#1BrickLanerPosted 11/16/2013 8:07:23 AM
Okay, do most Steam games that claim to have full controller support only mainly support 360 PC controllers?

Because whenever I try using other controllers like the PS3 Dualshock3 for the PC, I have to use 3rd party programs like Xpadder, Tamamy's drivers, motionjoy, 360ce, etc.

Thanks in advance, friendly community of GameFAQs.
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#2KabtheMentatPosted 11/16/2013 8:40:33 AM
Yeah, I believe it's the driver/input program that 360 controllers use vs. PS3 controllers. I forget the name of it right now.

But anyway, the point is they only support controllers that are either 360s, or use the same drivers. PS3 doesn't, so nothing support it without a 3rd party program.
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#3AsucaHayashiPosted 11/16/2013 8:46:03 AM
it's called native support and yes, most(or all) of them are for 360 controllers for what i'm assuming would a combination of popularity and microsoft's support for them.

you can pretty much plug everything into a PC so i guess MS has been pushing for what would be the closest thing to an official controller what with their OS being the main gaming platform for most people and all.
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#4PhilOnDezPosted 11/16/2013 8:51:36 AM
The 360 controller utilizes something called X-input. Older PC controllers, the PS3 controller, and the PS4 controller use something called D-input. X-input is what basically all modern games use. There is an X-input wrapper for PS3 controllers, I'm not sure if it's free or what but it seems like it would be the most straightforward way to get PS3 controller support for every game that supports controllers natively.
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#5nonexistingheroPosted 11/16/2013 5:57:16 PM
I think this is just Microsoft being anal. It's stupid that there's thousands of different PC controllers, but that almost none of them work on modern games without crappy 3rd party programs (and even then it's usually not even perfect). On top of that, you usually can't even adjust the controls for the controller in-game. That's far worse than a decade ago.
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#6AlleRacingPosted 11/17/2013 8:30:04 AM
There is an xinput wrapper for the DS3 and DS4. I'm using it right now and it's been working pretty great for most games I've tried it on. I had to use x360ce to get it working with Dark Souls, and the jump and item button are switched around in Castle Crashers, but smooth sailing other than that (so far).
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#7CilymPosted 11/17/2013 8:56:48 AM
Such laziness. It takes 5 minutes to download and setup DS3 Tool and then you're good to go for every game out there.
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#8nonexistingheroPosted 11/17/2013 12:48:53 PM
Cilym posted...
Such laziness. It takes 5 minutes to download and setup DS3 Tool and then you're good to go for every game out there.


Doesn't work offline and not even tutorials to make it work offline work for me. Also doesn't work wirelessly unless you happen to be lucky. Anyhow, you shouldn't even have to use these stupid methods. The controllers should just work after a simple driver install at best.
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#9Crimson_JesusPosted 11/19/2013 12:16:31 AM
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller
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#10claytonbuckleyPosted 11/19/2013 3:15:32 AM
Short answer, yes

Long answer is when games these days say 'full controller support' they mean x-input controllers. there are 2 types of controllers AFAIK, direct input and x-input. My Logitech wireless controller has a switch to switch it between X-input and direct input.

PS dualshocks are direct input, thats why you need 3rd party programs to turn them into x-input.
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