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#11wildog2006Posted 11/19/2013 2:42:15 PM
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Pretty nice build. The only thing I would change is the CPU. Put in an Intel processor instead of AMD. I don't think there are too many people who would disagree with that.


There is nothing wrong with AMD CPU's or GPU's.

I used to be like a lot of people. I used to avoid AMD CPU's and ATI GPU's like the plague but for one build i bought an Athlon 64 (because AMD were first to have 64 bit CPU's) and i have been using them ever since going from that to a couple of Athlon X2's then a Phenom 2 X4 and now i have an FX 6 core 6300 with plans on going to an 8 core 8350.

Same with GPU's i only ever used to buy nVidia but it was an ATI card that had GDDR5 first and not nVidia so i went with that and despite what people say i have never had one issue with the drivers or gaming as a whole with any of my AMD PC's so TC get that CPU. or you could wait for intel to make an 8 core one but be prepared to wait and also be prepared to spend a ton of cash on one (if they ever do make one but when they do AMD will probably have 12 or more core CPU's).

Yes there isn't any real need for 6 core CPU's for gaming yet but linus tech tips couldn't get battlefield 3 to even start using a dual core so that counts the core i3 processors out and games are now starting to require quad core CPU's with some having 6 or 8 core CPU's as their recommended requirements.

So going with the 8 core CPU means you do have future proofing because eventually 4 cores will no longer be enough to even start a game plus the new consoles have AMD hardware so maybe that will benefit in some way for games that are ported from those consoles.


So. How long have you worked for AMD?
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#12joeman6(Topic Creator)Posted 11/20/2013 3:09:05 AM
I was thinking of getting the 8350 but the 9370 comes with a water cooler so I save a bit of money on that because apparently the AMD stock fans are absolute rubbish.
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#13KabtheMentatPosted 11/20/2013 4:50:13 AM
I believe it comes with a cooler because the 9370 is just an overclocked 8350, so you'd need the cooler. AMDs tend to run hot. At least hotter than Intels.
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#14reincarnator07Posted 11/20/2013 10:51:37 AM
Pengu1n posted...
ATARIJAWA posted...
Pretty nice build. The only thing I would change is the CPU. Put in an Intel processor instead of AMD. I don't think there are too many people who would disagree with that.


There is nothing wrong with AMD CPU's or GPU's.

I used to be like a lot of people. I used to avoid AMD CPU's and ATI GPU's like the plague but for one build i bought an Athlon 64 (because AMD were first to have 64 bit CPU's) and i have been using them ever since going from that to a couple of Athlon X2's then a Phenom 2 X4 and now i have an FX 6 core 6300 with plans on going to an 8 core 8350.

Same with GPU's i only ever used to buy nVidia but it was an ATI card that had GDDR5 first and not nVidia so i went with that and despite what people say i have never had one issue with the drivers or gaming as a whole with any of my AMD PC's so TC get that CPU. or you could wait for intel to make an 8 core one but be prepared to wait and also be prepared to spend a ton of cash on one (if they ever do make one but when they do AMD will probably have 12 or more core CPU's).

Yes there isn't any real need for 6 core CPU's for gaming yet but linus tech tips couldn't get battlefield 3 to even start using a dual core so that counts the core i3 processors out and games are now starting to require quad core CPU's with some having 6 or 8 core CPU's as their recommended requirements.

So going with the 8 core CPU means you do have future proofing because eventually 4 cores will no longer be enough to even start a game plus the new consoles have AMD hardware so maybe that will benefit in some way for games that are ported from those consoles.


The reason games are starting to recommend 6 and 8 cores is because the FX4xxx processors are quad cores and perform worse than an i3 for most tasks. This stops the less informed people getting them and wondering why they run so meh. By the time 8 cores are required for gaming, I guarantee that AMDs current processors won't be powerful enough. Most games today still have poor threading and don't get much benefit from more cores. They get a lot of benefit from faster and more powerful cores though, which is what Intel offers.

I agree that AMD GPUs are fine, but I don't think anyone here was disagreeing with that.

Finally, in the video you were referring to (http://youtu.be/I4PDoy-mi0A), BF3 ran fine on 2 cores minus one NPC vanishing, which didn't affect gameplay. It didn't run with 1 core, but I don't think anything only has a single core any more (including most modern phones...)

I don't recommend AMD CPUs if you're able to afford an i5 or i7. Below that, the FX6300 is comparable to an i3, but it can also be overclocked.
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#15Pengu1nPosted 11/21/2013 7:31:42 AM
wildog2006 posted...
Pengu1n posted...
ATARIJAWA posted...
Pretty nice build. The only thing I would change is the CPU. Put in an Intel processor instead of AMD. I don't think there are too many people who would disagree with that.


There is nothing wrong with AMD CPU's or GPU's.

I used to be like a lot of people. I used to avoid AMD CPU's and ATI GPU's like the plague but for one build i bought an Athlon 64 (because AMD were first to have 64 bit CPU's) and i have been using them ever since going from that to a couple of Athlon X2's then a Phenom 2 X4 and now i have an FX 6 core 6300 with plans on going to an 8 core 8350.

Same with GPU's i only ever used to buy nVidia but it was an ATI card that had GDDR5 first and not nVidia so i went with that and despite what people say i have never had one issue with the drivers or gaming as a whole with any of my AMD PC's so TC get that CPU. or you could wait for intel to make an 8 core one but be prepared to wait and also be prepared to spend a ton of cash on one (if they ever do make one but when they do AMD will probably have 12 or more core CPU's).

Yes there isn't any real need for 6 core CPU's for gaming yet but linus tech tips couldn't get battlefield 3 to even start using a dual core so that counts the core i3 processors out and games are now starting to require quad core CPU's with some having 6 or 8 core CPU's as their recommended requirements.

So going with the 8 core CPU means you do have future proofing because eventually 4 cores will no longer be enough to even start a game plus the new consoles have AMD hardware so maybe that will benefit in some way for games that are ported from those consoles.


So. How long have you worked for AMD?


I don't.

Like i said i used to bash AMD and ATI like a lot of people and only ever used to buy Intel and nVidia but now i have owned various AMD CPU's and GPU's i don't know why people bash them so much. I have never had any issues with any AMD hardware i have never had any issues running games with AMD hardware either. People just bash AMD for no reason.

Had intel had 64bit CPU's, dual core CPU's and Nvidia had GDDR5 on their graphics cards at the time would have stuck with intel and nvidia but they didn't and i am glad i took the risk and went with AMD.
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#16Echo_BotPosted 11/25/2013 3:17:31 PM
Pengu1n posted...
ATARIJAWA posted...
Pretty nice build. The only thing I would change is the CPU. Put in an Intel processor instead of AMD. I don't think there are too many people who would disagree with that.


There is nothing wrong with AMD CPU's or GPU's.

I used to be like a lot of people. I used to avoid AMD CPU's and ATI GPU's like the plague but for one build i bought an Athlon 64 (because AMD were first to have 64 bit CPU's) and i have been using them ever since going from that to a couple of Athlon X2's then a Phenom 2 X4 and now i have an FX 6 core 6300 with plans on going to an 8 core 8350.

Same with GPU's i only ever used to buy nVidia but it was an ATI card that had GDDR5 first and not nVidia so i went with that and despite what people say i have never had one issue with the drivers or gaming as a whole with any of my AMD PC's so TC get that CPU. or you could wait for intel to make an 8 core one but be prepared to wait and also be prepared to spend a ton of cash on one (if they ever do make one but when they do AMD will probably have 12 or more core CPU's).

Yes there isn't any real need for 6 core CPU's for gaming yet but linus tech tips couldn't get battlefield 3 to even start using a dual core so that counts the core i3 processors out and games are now starting to require quad core CPU's with some having 6 or 8 core CPU's as their recommended requirements.

So going with the 8 core CPU means you do have future proofing because eventually 4 cores will no longer be enough to even start a game plus the new consoles have AMD hardware so maybe that will benefit in some way for games that are ported from those consoles.


So why are the AMD CPU's cheaper and why do people always say Intel are better and more recommended?
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