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Is there any reason to consider Opera over Firefox or Chrome?

#1SpincutPosted 11/20/2013 1:41:17 PM
I mean, it seems like if you have either Firefox or Chrome that there would be little reason to need Opera as well....are there any people out there that actually for some reason feel Opera is somehow superior?
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#2SinisterSlayPosted 11/20/2013 1:43:31 PM
Opera was good when they used presto, now they use webkit, same as chrome, so they are worthless now.
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#3Spincut(Topic Creator)Posted 11/20/2013 1:56:45 PM
SinisterSlay posted...
Opera was good when they used presto, now they use webkit, same as chrome, so they are worthless now.


While I'd like to think I'm decently savvy, I don't know what presto or webkit are :/ .
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#4codyorrPosted 11/20/2013 1:56:48 PM
I used Netscape from the early '90s until 2003 at school. I used AOL from 1996-2010 at home. I used IE from 2010-2013 when we got "broadband" satellite internet. I now use Opera because my version has adblock plus built into it. I tried Chrome and it's terrible. I never tried Firefox so I don't know anything about it. That's my news.
#5Spincut(Topic Creator)Posted 11/20/2013 1:58:24 PM
codyorr posted...
I used Netscape from the early '90s until 2003 at school. I used AOL from 1996-2010 at home. I used IE from 2010-2013 when we got "broadband" satellite internet. I now use Opera because my version has adblock plus built into it. I tried Chrome and it's terrible. I never tried Firefox so I don't know anything about it. That's my news.


Adblock plus is available for firefox and chrome too though...so I'm not really sure it being built is an automatic tie breaker even...

Also, given your usage history as it was laid out, I can't tell entirely if you're joking or not :P .
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#6SinisterSlayPosted 11/20/2013 1:59:55 PM(edited)
Spincut posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Opera was good when they used presto, now they use webkit, same as chrome, so they are worthless now.


While I'd like to think I'm decently savvy, I don't know what presto or webkit are :/ .


webkit and presto are browser engines.

Firefox uses gecko
Chrome uses webkit
webkit uses webkit
safari uses webkit
Opera used to use presto, but now they use webkit
Internet Explorer uses trident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_layout_engines#Graphical
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#7Spincut(Topic Creator)Posted 11/20/2013 2:00:15 PM
SinisterSlay posted...
Spincut posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Opera was good when they used presto, now they use webkit, same as chrome, so they are worthless now.


While I'd like to think I'm decently savvy, I don't know what presto or webkit are :/ .


webkit and presto are browser engines.

Firefox uses gecko
Chrome uses webkit
webkit uses webkit
kde uses kde
safari uses webkit
Opera used to use presto, but now they use webkit
Internet Explorer uses trident.


So, you do not like webkit I take it? Also never heard of kde. Also never realized that this one engine, webkit, was so popular. Kind of surprised to see that Safari, Chrome and Opera all run on the same engine..
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#8SinisterSlayPosted 11/20/2013 2:05:44 PM(edited)
Spincut posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Spincut posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Opera was good when they used presto, now they use webkit, same as chrome, so they are worthless now.


While I'd like to think I'm decently savvy, I don't know what presto or webkit are :/ .


webkit and presto are browser engines.

Firefox uses gecko
Chrome uses webkit
webkit uses webkit
kde uses kde
safari uses webkit
Opera used to use presto, but now they use webkit
Internet Explorer uses trident.


So, you do not like webkit I take it? Also never heard of kde. Also never realized that this one engine, webkit, was so popular. Kind of surprised to see that Safari, Chrome and Opera all run on the same engine..


Sorry I edited my post, KDE was a brain failure, I was thinking of KHTML


I don't mind webkit. Presto traditionally did a much better job at following html/xhtml standards.

And I've been fighting with trident and webkit errors all day. Especially how they all forgot that a line return after a tag is supposed to be ignored. So instead every line return in code has been translated into a space.
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#9Spincut(Topic Creator)Posted 11/20/2013 2:09:19 PM
Ok so, do the various browsers that all now apparently use the same engine do anything else to differentiate themselves even? I mean, I would assume this engine is one of the primary things that deterime how well these browsers perform (although let's be honest, at least among Firefox/Chrome/IE, they all appear to have unavoidable memory leaks where if left open long enough the thing will swallow up all your system memory).
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#10SinisterSlayPosted 11/20/2013 2:14:16 PM
Spincut posted...
Ok so, do the various browsers that all now apparently use the same engine do anything else to differentiate themselves even? I mean, I would assume this engine is one of the primary things that deterime how well these browsers perform (although let's be honest, at least among Firefox/Chrome/IE, they all appear to have unavoidable memory leaks where if left open long enough the thing will swallow up all your system memory).


Some add some window dressing or additional functionality.

One of the reasons I use Avant is it allows me to use trident, gecko and webkit all at the same time but with a nice consistent user interface. It it adds better ad blocking, script blocking, flash blocking, etc. (not as good as purpose built browser addins like ad block plus and noscript)

I don't recommend Avant anymore though, all the versions after build 100 have been utter garbage. The last good version was build 2013 23.
http://avant-browser-ultimate.soft32.com/old-version/427965/2013.build.23
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