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Should I buy a new PC or a new graphics card?

#1fbplayer1064Posted 11/23/2013 8:47:36 AM
It seems my video card is going bad on me and I was wondering what people with more experience in sort of thing think. Should I buy a new video card or just go ahead and get a whole new PC. I want to be able to play newer games such as battlefield 4 although I don't necessarily expect to play them on the best settings. If I get a new PC i would want to spend about $700

Here are my specs

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz, 2668 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Video card NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
Total Virtual Memory 7.98 GB
#2gsf4lyfePosted 11/23/2013 8:59:37 AM
Since you'd likely need a new PSU for a good video card, just go for a new build.

Here's something I threw together, great performance for less than $700.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/274ke
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#3DragnfyrPosted 11/23/2013 9:08:14 AM
gsf4lyfe posted...
Since you'd likely need a new PSU for a good video card, just go for a new build.

Here's something I threw together, great performance for less than $700.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/274ke


How do you know he'd likely need a new PSU?
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#4gikosPosted 11/23/2013 9:15:02 AM
new gpu your cpu will hold look at the best deal on r9 280
or get cpu if you think you need it.an i5 is good enough
btw you didn't mention what case you have or PSU
p.s
guys my case is gigabyte gzg1 will a r9 280 fit
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#5gsf4lyfePosted 11/23/2013 9:42:40 AM
Dragnfyr posted...
gsf4lyfe posted...
Since you'd likely need a new PSU for a good video card, just go for a new build.

Here's something I threw together, great performance for less than $700.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/274ke


How do you know he'd likely need a new PSU?


The way he listed the specs and what video card he has leads me to believe he has a prebuilt, and I'm just predicting that it doesn't have an adequate power supply.
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#6fbplayer1064(Topic Creator)Posted 11/23/2013 12:08:21 PM
IT was a premade, but I had to replace the PSU a while back. I have a 700 watt in there right now. Not sure of the case though.
#7_GRIM_FANDANGO_Posted 11/23/2013 1:32:50 PM
700 watt should be fine. Not sure of the brand or quality, but a midrange build that you had, and a midrange build that you had, and the components you will be replacing them with require about the same in terms of PSU (rough estimate ~500 watt).

Imo, if you are not too demanding, keep the CPU, upgrade RAM to 8GB, get a cheapish midrange card like the 7950 or GTX 760, and enjoy.

Personally I just upgraded Mobo+CPU+GPU, which might be a good idea depending on whether you are actually satisfied with the rest of the components. Some people make a new build every few years, I am convinced I save a lot of money by always gradually upgrading and replacing based on current wants and needs.
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#8fbplayer1064(Topic Creator)Posted 11/23/2013 1:41:05 PM
_GRIM_FANDANGO_ posted...
700 watt should be fine. Not sure of the brand or quality, but a midrange build that you had, and a midrange build that you had, and the components you will be replacing them with require about the same in terms of PSU (rough estimate ~500 watt).

Imo, if you are not too demanding, keep the CPU, upgrade RAM to 8GB, get a cheapish midrange card like the 7950 or GTX 760, and enjoy.

Personally I just upgraded Mobo+CPU+GPU, which might be a good idea depending on whether you are actually satisfied with the rest of the components. Some people make a new build every few years, I am convinced I save a lot of money by always gradually upgrading and replacing based on current wants and needs.



Thanks for the input. I think this is what I am going to do. I was just concerned that the i5 would be pretty obsolete, but I guess these days its not so much about the CPU and saving money is never a bad thing
#9SlaynPosted 11/23/2013 2:05:48 PM
Get a 500-600w psu ( provided yours isn't good ) and a good video card. Don't bother upgrading the CPU. Cpu+mobo will eat away most of that budget, the AMD cpu listed above probably wouldn't be a huge leap in performance. The GPU will do so much more.
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#10_GRIM_FANDANGO_Posted 11/24/2013 9:25:59 AM
fbplayer1064 posted...
_GRIM_FANDANGO_ posted...
700 watt should be fine. Not sure of the brand or quality, but a midrange build that you had, and a midrange build that you had, and the components you will be replacing them with require about the same in terms of PSU (rough estimate ~500 watt).

Imo, if you are not too demanding, keep the CPU, upgrade RAM to 8GB, get a cheapish midrange card like the 7950 or GTX 760, and enjoy.

Personally I just upgraded Mobo+CPU+GPU, which might be a good idea depending on whether you are actually satisfied with the rest of the components. Some people make a new build every few years, I am convinced I save a lot of money by always gradually upgrading and replacing based on current wants and needs.



Thanks for the input. I think this is what I am going to do. I was just concerned that the i5 would be pretty obsolete, but I guess these days its not so much about the CPU and saving money is never a bad thing


The CPU is still pretty good. They no longer include it in the benchmarks, so it is a little hard to see how it performs compared to, say, an i5 4670k. However, after the first generation i5's the 2500k came out which brought about a 20% performance increase, while the 3570k and 4670k each added only about 5% each (talking very, very roughly here). The main advantages in those last two generations were more focused on smaller devices such as laptops increasing battery times by being less demanding and such.

The i5 750 is not yet obsolete, and will not cause any sort of bottleneck for the GTX 760/ HD 7950. I also know it runs BF4 quite well still, since I used to have it only a couple of months ago (bought this 3570 second hand).

Here you can see the performance compared to the i5 2500k.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

Here is the i5 2500k's performance compared to the newer 3570 and 4670
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=0&itemid=1158

Note how incredibly small the performance differences are. In other words, that first link tells pretty much the whole story when comparing the midrange i5 model you use to the ones that people buy today. Not obsolete.
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