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Next gen console failure rate is very high

#21QuestofChosenPosted 11/23/2013 1:27:16 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of defective consoles next gen consoles. I just don't trust those Amazon user "reviews". The majority of them were probably submitted to make the competing console look bad. You have to love the consolar wars.
#22Giblet_EnjoyerPosted 11/23/2013 1:33:26 PM
Kokuei05 posted...
Negative reviews over shadow positive reviews. Positive reviews are few because people who don't have problems won't complain to the internet that their products works fine.

Dumb reassurance topic of insecure PC gamers.


reincarnator07 posted...
Loshadt posted...
Any part can arrive DOA, but 22% is an absurd failure rate by any standard.


Good job the failure rate isn't that high then. As stated above, the majority of those with working consoles will be playing them instead of shouting about how they work as intended. Did you write a review the last time you purchased a processor about how it was working fine?

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#23TheMoonJumperPosted 11/23/2013 1:40:57 PM
WyzeGye posted...
no, people with negative experiences tend to be the loudest. I know a dozen people with PS4 and XBone and they're all playing happily.


Exactly. Most people won't go on amazon or any other site to claim that their product works... because it's supposed to.

The complaints are always the loudest, it was the same with XBOX 360 and PS3, the failure rates are actually lower than you think compared to the number of units sold.
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#24ElfergosPosted 11/23/2013 1:44:30 PM
Loshadt posted...
Sc24life posted...
It's not 22%. Ever heard of sample bias?


Yes, I have. But even if it's only around 10%, or even 5-7%, that's still abysmal.


The official word from Sony say between 0.4 and 1%. It 'seems' much higher because they have shipped over a million of them. On average, electronics have about a 15% failure rate within their first 3 years.
#25Ork_HeroPosted 11/23/2013 1:47:12 PM
WyzeGye posted...
no, people with negative experiences tend to be the loudest. I know a dozen people with PS4 and XBone and they're all playing happily.


This should have ended the discussion
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#26wizardmonPosted 11/23/2013 1:51:32 PM
Elfergos posted...
Loshadt posted...
Sc24life posted...
It's not 22%. Ever heard of sample bias?

Yes, I have. But even if it's only around 10%, or even 5-7%, that's still abysmal.

The official word from Sony say between 0.4 and 1%. It 'seems' much higher because they have shipped over a million of them. On average, electronics have about a 15% failure rate within their first 3 years.

Backing that statistic up with this study.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170748-how-long-do-hard-drives-actually-live-for
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#27DerPancakePosted 11/23/2013 1:57:37 PM
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#28strongo9Posted 11/23/2013 2:06:52 PM
Have you ever heard of a vocal minority? The people who had problems with their consoles are all complaining about it while the people who didn't are enjoying their consoles while not necessarily being very vocal about it. The people without problems far outweigh the amount of people who do have them. The actual failure rate is probably somewhere below 5% for each console.
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#29Mr_DelcroixPosted 11/23/2013 2:08:36 PM
Dirk85UK posted...
Xbox One: On amazon.co.uk 36% of reviews gave it 1 star out of 5. On amazon.com 33% of reviews gave it a 1 star out of 5. Most claiming some sort of hardware fault, console being bricked from day 1.

PlayStation 4: On amazon.com 22% of review gave it 1 star out of 5. Most claiming "blue light of death" or some hardware fault, console being bricked from day 1.

Makes you feel glad to be part of the PC master race, right?


Take that percentage and compare it to the number of people who bought one and didn't have problems.

Subtract the trolls and s***posters, console war babies and morons looking to stir up buisness.

And stop being a PC MUSTARD RACE child.

Then you'll have an answer as to why things aren't looking that bad.
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#30xanthan1Posted 11/23/2013 2:13:02 PM(edited)
I believe someone actually bothered to crunch the numbers based on total units sold by Amazon in another thread about this

Lefty128k posted...
Okay, you want me to use Amazon figures....fine.

1,000,000+ PS4 sold already.......

Currently 815 1-star reviews on Amazon.
Assuming they are all honestly (ROFLMAO) reporting a malfunctioning unit........

Amazon accounts for 0.0815% of the total failures.

0.0815% is FAR less than the 35% - 40% you claimed.

So, by Amazon figures you are wrong.

Please note these numbers figure every unit sold by Amazon that was DOA was reported as such in a review and that none of said reviews were lies. Both of these are stupid assumptions. Working off a tiny percentage of them, especially when you don't know how much of said percentage is just lies, and applying whatever you come up with to all of them seems like a bad idea.