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Video game censorship

#31TheWayOfTheGunPosted 12/1/2013 9:42:00 PM
kingjosh1876 posted...
Featherwind posted...
Is this useful? Why exactly is it important and acceptable to try to prevent minors from accessing these games?


People generally believe that young children being exposed to violent/sexual etc media can cause them to be negatively affected by it, perhaps altering their development or their mind's when they are older.

What do I think? People take this too far and the way people try to blame media for killings and crimes are ignorant and do not consider other things.


Exposure is huge. If my older brother hadn't gone out of his way to let me hang with his friend I wouldn't gotten in to half of what I did. If they didn't exist, I wouldn't have been spending my allowance on chron and 40's in my early teens. That's what exposure does.

Not everyone can grow up though.
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#32Featherwind(Topic Creator)Posted 12/1/2013 9:52:38 PM
The cranky hermit posted...
Yeah. In this case it's called "parenting," and it is NOT censorship. To censor video games means suppressing them in a manner that prevents the public from having access to them. Your dad not buying you Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 back in '96 because it was rated M doesn't qualify.

"Censorship" is a loaded term, and you damn well know it. Shame on you.


I did say that controlling access is to some extent accepted in society (I guess this goes under parenting). The rationale behind this can still be questioned and discussed. Why did he not buy me Mortal Kombat 3 and what if he did buy? Did he really have any good reason to not let me experience it? Would it have made me a more violent person or more likely triggered an underlying problem than the actions that would have been replaced by playing Mortal Kombat?

Maybe he had the assumption that seeing violent games would negatively affect me but did he really have any evidence of this? After all he could have forbid me from seeing works by black or homosexual authors claiming it would corrupt me but this would have raised questions. People would probably ask if he could show any connection between negative behavior and these works.

MasterDonGero posted...
Anything can cause violence. Music. Videos. Food. Work. Disease. Ugly people's faces. It's a silly argument.


Saying that "video games cause more violence" is technically true if they trigger more underlying mental conditions than the actions they replace.
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#33GamersTavernPosted 12/1/2013 10:22:04 PM
Our culture is a little too PC.
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#34DawnshadowPosted 12/2/2013 1:08:57 AM
It's not censorship. The ESRB is something that game companies and stores choose to abide by, not a legal requirement. (It is mostly to keep moral fanatics off their backs.)

The age guidelines are just that-- guidelines, and it's up to the parent to decide if the kid's mature enough to play any given game. I also don't think that game violence translates to IRL violence in a normal, mentally healthy person. It's just in place to keep the control in the parents' hands so they don't get angry soccer moms who are furious that Gamestop sold their 14 year old angel Super Nightmare Gorefest IV while their back was turned.
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#35The cranky hermitPosted 12/3/2013 6:13:11 PM
Why did he not buy me Mortal Kombat 3 and what if he did buy? Did he really have any good reason to not let me experience it? Would it have made me a more violent person or more likely triggered an underlying problem than the actions that would have been replaced by playing Mortal Kombat?

I'm not your dad, and it's not my business how he raised you in regards to video games. Ask him these questions, not me.
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#36clowningPosted 12/3/2013 6:37:47 PM
Confusing censorship (not allowed at all) with ratings (allowed but age restricted).

This confusion has been going on for decades. I remember when parents wanted "explicit lyrics" stickers placed on tapes and records, and a bunch of rockers screamed censorship. Of course, there was no censorship at all, it was just an ingredients label, of sorts. Since then (at least in my lifetime) people scream censorship over labels and ratings.

The word "censorship" doesn't mean anything, anymore, thanks to political ranting.
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#37reincarnator07Posted 12/3/2013 6:51:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

To keep this from being a troll post, why do you take issue with age ratings? Do you honestly think it's appropriate for children to be playing games like GTA or Mortal Kombat? We already have enough foul mouthed children around, we don't need more.
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#38Featherwind(Topic Creator)Posted 12/4/2013 8:10:34 AM
reincarnator07 posted...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

To keep this from being a troll post, why do you take issue with age ratings? Do you honestly think it's appropriate for children to be playing games like GTA or Mortal Kombat? We already have enough foul mouthed children around, we don't need more.


Note that I have never condemned censorship or suggested that video games should not be age restricted. I was just wondering why exactly they are age restricted and why is a group of people deciding what information is appropriate for others and what is not is accepted by societies that generally frown on such things.

The cranky hermit posted...
Why did he not buy me Mortal Kombat 3 and what if he did buy? Did he really have any good reason to not let me experience it? Would it have made me a more violent person or more likely triggered an underlying problem than the actions that would have been replaced by playing Mortal Kombat?

I'm not your dad, and it's not my business how he raised you in regards to video games. Ask him these questions, not me.


I was speaking hypothetically. As in what do you think he could say, could he provide any satisfactory answers? My dad never refused to buy me Mortal Kombat 3, I never wanted it or even knew it existed, have never played it etc. I hoped this was clear from the context but seemingly it wasn't.

clowning posted...
Confusing censorship (not allowed at all) with ratings (allowed but age restricted).

The word "censorship" doesn't mean anything, anymore, thanks to political ranting.


I don't think something has to be completely disallowed for everyone for it to be considered censorship. Like I said there is a body that tries to prevent a certain group of people from accessing information they think is inappropriate or harmful to them. What else is this than censorship? When done by parents to children it often gets called "parenting" because it sounds better but they both refer to the same activity here and censorship is the more precise term because other things go under parenting too.
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#39The cranky hermitPosted 12/4/2013 9:57:24 PM
I was speaking hypothetically.

Doesn't change my point any. Your hypothetical dad has his hypothetical reasons, and it's none of my hypothetical business or anyone else's.

Like I said there is a body that tries to prevent a certain group of people from accessing information they think is inappropriate or harmful to them.

Like OTHERS said, and have explained already, you are wrong. Rating a game M is an attempt to inform parents. The parents make the decision on whether or not to let their kids play M-rated games - ESRB really doesn't care one way or another.
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#40somebody336Posted 12/4/2013 10:03:15 PM
Who knows if its actually useful :/ It seems like alot of parents don't even know what rated "M" is and get mad when someone in the game says a bad word >.>
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