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Windows 7 won't recognize me as Admin even though my account is set as such

#1White Wolf KibaPosted 12/2/2013 11:32:25 AM
I'm pretty damn frustrated with this as with most computer problems.
I needed to delete some dll files from a system folder, I know what I'm deleting and it's fine yet windows keeps ******* that I need administrator permission to do it.

What makes this so insanely frustrating is that I don't have the time or patience to tinker with the computer until it works when it's all set up to work.
My account is the only account on the computer and is set as an administrator account and the User Account Controls settings have been completely disabled for this one and only account.

My only hope at this point is to enable to hidden admin account through command prompt if the computer will let me do it, but I'd rather see what's up with my main account first.

I've never had this problem on any of my other systems, disabling User Account Controls and setting the account as admin has always been all I ever needed to do whatever the hell I wanted.
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#2El MagnificoPosted 12/2/2013 11:57:18 AM
You're not supposed to have elevated privileges all the time even as an admin. That's just unnecessary. If you need to run something that requires elevated privileges, then just right click and select the run as admin option.
#3ChromaticAngelPosted 12/2/2013 12:10:08 PM
An Administrator is not the highest account level in Windows. There are a few account levels higher than admin but are reserved for system critical processes and you can't log in as them. Chances are, if something you are trying to do as an administrator isn't working, one of the higher accounts with more authority is blocking you.
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#4SinisterSlayPosted 12/2/2013 12:18:54 PM(edited)
How do you know your not admin?


UAC off just makes it auto accept all the UAC messages.
Figuring out permissions with UAC off is really confusing, I leave it on so I at least know when a process is admin.

For example, the UAC admin user doesn't have your mapped drives. So I;ve run installations with UAC off off a network drive and have it tell me the file wasn't found.
Worse yet, you can use a group policy to actually block this admin user, but still give UAC messages. So even if you say yes, you get blocked. But blocked as the admin user now.

Also, system files belong to the installation user. You have to take ownership of the files before you can play with them.
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#5ShubPosted 12/2/2013 12:18:37 PM
Click on your Start menu
Type cmd
Press Ctrl+Shift+Enter
Navigate to where your DLL file is stored and just type: del filename.dll /q
Does that work?
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#6White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 12/2/2013 12:44:57 PM
^ I'll try it next time man
I just booted into safe mode and deleted it from there
strangely enough I don't get permission issues there

it was just a messed up file that was causing trouble for my TERA Online launcher, so now it's fixed.

What I find annoying is that I can't even set special permissions in the folder or file options, can't tick the box for it despite being admin yet all other premissions I can modify.
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#7White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 12/3/2013 9:13:45 AM
Shub posted...
Click on your Start menu
Type cmd
Press Ctrl+Shift+Enter
Navigate to where your DLL file is stored and just type: del filename.dll /q
Does that work?


When I try to do this it says access is denied
even though I ran the command prompt as an admin
but I can delete anything from safe mode, go figure
I don't get this stuff at all
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#8KillerTrufflePosted 12/3/2013 9:17:49 AM
Your primary login might have admin privileges, but it is not *the* admin account. Windows 7 actually creates an admin account for each installation on its own. That is the only account with unlimited elevated privileges, and Microsoft (and most everyone else) strongly recommends against using it on a regular basis due to security concerns as well as the fact it makes it far too easy for you to screw something up.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/
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#9El MagnificoPosted 12/3/2013 9:29:36 AM
It doesn't sound like his problem was with the lack of elevated privileges. The DLLs he was trying to delete was likely still loaded by the system so there was a system lock on them which gave a generic message about not have permission to access the files. When he rebooted into Safe Mode the DLLs weren't loaded anymore so they weren't locked allowing him to delete the files without even needing elevated privilege.
#10SinisterSlayPosted 12/3/2013 9:30:50 AM
El Magnifico posted...
It doesn't sound like his problem was with the lack of elevated privileges. The DLLs he was trying to delete was likely still loaded by the system so there was a system lock on them which gave a generic message about not have permission to access the files. When he rebooted into Safe Mode the DLLs weren't loaded anymore so they weren't locked allowing him to delete the files without even needing elevated privilege.


Safe mode loads you as the true administrator, so you wouldn't get those messages.
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