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Do games require 64-bit yet?

#1Solid SonicPosted 12/17/2013 7:42:03 PM
If not, is it time?
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#2wizardmonPosted 12/17/2013 7:43:03 PM
Yes.
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#3chase1234lifePosted 12/17/2013 7:43:25 PM
Please rephrase your first question.

If however you mean a 64-bit operating system (which is what I'm assuming), then no. And no.
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#4SinisterSlayPosted 12/17/2013 8:37:51 PM
We are right on the edge. For the most part, 32bit will give you minimum settings these days.

The executables are still 32bit but they get access to 4 gigs of RAM and unlimited VRAM.
So as long as a game doesn't need more than 4 gigs of RAM there is no reason to go 64bit yet.

However, an operating system at 32bit has a maximum of 4 gigs memory total, thats VRAM and system RAM combined. And subtract 512mb of kernel space(wasted memory) and you end up with 3.5 gigs maximum assuming you don't have a video card, if you do, VRAM is subtracted from the system memory. A 1 gig card will leave you with 2.5-3 gigs of RAM. A 3 gig 680 would leave you with less than a gig of system ram. You can't run a game in that little space.


64bit OSs emulate 32bit address spaces for 32bit programs. So each program gets 4 gigs of addressable memory space.
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#5metroidman92Posted 12/17/2013 8:48:20 PM
SinisterSlay posted...
We are right on the edge. For the most part, 32bit will give you minimum settings these days.

The executables are still 32bit but they get access to 4 gigs of RAM and unlimited VRAM.
So as long as a game doesn't need more than 4 gigs of RAM there is no reason to go 64bit yet.

However, an operating system at 32bit has a maximum of 4 gigs memory total, thats VRAM and system RAM combined. And subtract 512mb of kernel space(wasted memory) and you end up with 3.5 gigs maximum assuming you don't have a video card, if you do, VRAM is subtracted from the system memory. A 1 gig card will leave you with 2.5-3 gigs of RAM. A 3 gig 680 would leave you with less than a gig of system ram. You can't run a game in that little space.


64bit OSs emulate 32bit address spaces for 32bit programs. So each program gets 4 gigs of addressable memory space.


I think I learned more in this post than I did in a whole semester of CompSci.

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#6GoshoraiPosted 12/17/2013 8:58:13 PM
SinisterSlay posted...
We are right on the edge. For the most part, 32bit will give you minimum settings these days.

The executables are still 32bit but they get access to 4 gigs of RAM and unlimited VRAM.
So as long as a game doesn't need more than 4 gigs of RAM there is no reason to go 64bit yet.

However, an operating system at 32bit has a maximum of 4 gigs memory total, thats VRAM and system RAM combined. And subtract 512mb of kernel space(wasted memory) and you end up with 3.5 gigs maximum assuming you don't have a video card, if you do, VRAM is subtracted from the system memory. A 1 gig card will leave you with 2.5-3 gigs of RAM. A 3 gig 680 would leave you with less than a gig of system ram. You can't run a game in that little space.


64bit OSs emulate 32bit address spaces for 32bit programs. So each program gets 4 gigs of addressable memory space.


No wonder my PC is behaving like crap, I have 3gb System and my GPU has 2gb, i'm on W7x86.

Also, wasnt Watch_Dogs the first game to *require* a 64bits? or I'm confusing stuff?
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#7The cranky hermitPosted 12/17/2013 9:35:39 PM
If however you mean a 64-bit operating system (which is what I'm assuming), then no. And no.

The second "no" seems to be implying that we should still stick to 32-bit OS's. If you were going to buy Win7 or later, why wouldn't you get the 64-bit version? The only reason I can think of is 16-bit compatibility, which you can get with DOSBox, and I don't think 32-bit Win7 works with 16-bit games anyway.
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#8PhilOnDezPosted 12/17/2013 9:46:13 PM
Goshorai posted...
No wonder my PC is behaving like crap, I have 3gb System and my GPU has 2gb, i'm on W7x86.

Also, wasnt Watch_Dogs the first game to *require* a 64bits? or I'm confusing stuff?


I've seen a few Alphas/Betas that required 64 bit but with a 32bit final release, if only as an option. Watch dogs is the only one I know of that will be 64 bit only.

Be careful on the X86 stuff, X64 is short for X86_64, don't reinstall for nothing.
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#9Ikari GendoPosted 12/17/2013 10:52:56 PM
Doesn't X-Rebirth require x64? It's hard to tell why since performance sucks so much.
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#10SinisterSlayPosted 12/17/2013 11:24:34 PM
Ikari Gendo posted...
Doesn't X-Rebirth require x64? It's hard to tell why since performance sucks so much.


From what I heard its a 32bit exe.
However, the graphics card requirements puts it over the limit of a 32bit OS, so realistically you'd want a 64 bit system.
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