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can you actually discern 320 kbps mp3 and lossless?

#21chase1234lifePosted 12/28/2013 11:02:56 PM
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#22DV8ingSourcesPosted 12/28/2013 11:08:51 PM
chase1234life posted...
I'll tell you guys which is which later...


Unnecessary as you didn't hide the format at all nor reconvert to create equal file sizes... You can't expect us NOT to look when its so painfully obvious. What you need to do is what you did but then reconvert those mp3's back into a wav file for it to be a proper blind test.
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#23Orestes417Posted 12/28/2013 11:09:41 PM
If you're not familiar with the source, how precisely are you supposed to know how it's intended to sound? Especially with the atrocious mastering on some albums these days. I've heard cases where the distortion caused by compression improved things. I'm thinking mp3 helped the nasty clipping on RHCP's Californication for instance.
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#24Tony_Biggie_PunPosted 12/28/2013 11:15:07 PM
TheC0ndemnedOne posted...
I can tell the difference between 128 Kbps and 320 Kbps in a blind test with my JVC HA-RX700. Not sure about anything higher/closer together.


Wow. I use the JVC HA-S400s and I cant tell the difference at all
#25chase1234lifePosted 12/28/2013 11:24:03 PM
Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
TheC0ndemnedOne posted...
I can tell the difference between 128 Kbps and 320 Kbps in a blind test with my JVC HA-RX700. Not sure about anything higher/closer together.


Wow. I use the JVC HA-S400s and I cant tell the difference at all


The S series is pretty damn low-mid tier. The RX's are JVC's "top-line" headphones, use a different (re: much much better) driver (specifically larger). The M/MR's would be their "audiophile" headphones, but they put too much emphasis on bass, while the RX's are much more "flat".
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#26chase1234lifePosted 12/28/2013 11:28:59 PM
Alright, I have a blind test for you guys to take if you wish, and done so there's no cheating now...

This track is from my own album, "My Name is Wolf". It's the last track on the album. The best way to do the test is to use the Chrome Browser, and use the "Music Player for Google Drive" app; though you can download the files if that's too much work for you.

The bitrates are 128, 320, and lossless.

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (1)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvSUU1fcXMwempERmM/edit?usp=sharing

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (2)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvSbmRCWThWSV9Jbnc/edit?usp=sharing

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (3)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvST0VGNm9uOWRSOTg/edit?usp=sharing

You tell me which one is which bitrate (for example you might say "(2) is 128")




I'll tell you guys which is which later...
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#27Tony_Biggie_PunPosted 12/28/2013 11:30:45 PM
Really? I heard that the JVC HAS 400B was one of the best bang for bucn headphones on head-fi. If I had known the RX were better I'd have gotten an RX 500 which is about the same price.
#28chase1234lifePosted 12/28/2013 11:36:19 PM
The S series isn't horrible, but in the world of "audiophile" headphones, they're low end.

Compared to anything else you'll find at a local Wal-Mart though, they're still pretty nice. The RX's sound is better than the S series, but they're aren't as convinet, portable, or comfortable. The RX's have a better sound, but they are much heavier, get hotter quicker, aren't foldable/"DJ Spin", and just are a little unruly (I think even the RX300s have a non-detachable 8ft. cord).

So I could see them being a best bang for those reasons, but the RX's sound better. The S's are more convinent and sound decent enough.
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#29Tony_Biggie_PunPosted 12/28/2013 11:49:39 PM(edited)
The bitrates are 128, 320, and lossless.

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (1)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvSUU1fcXMwempERmM/edit?usp=sharing

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (2)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvSbmRCWThWSV9Jbnc/edit?usp=sharing

Dream Sequence [A Reflective Mix] (3)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-MwHa2QGvST0VGNm9uOWRSOTg/edit?usp=sharing

You tell me which one is which bitrate (for example you might say "(2) is 128")




I'll tell you guys which is which later...


They all sound identical to me.

But if I had to guess I'd say #1 is 128kbps

And either of 2 and 3 can be 320 or lossless.
#30ChaapPosted 12/29/2013 12:12:53 AM
blind tests show that virtually no one can tell the difference between lossless and properly encoded lossy formats so it's curious that so many of you claim to be able to

and by curious i mean "no, you can't tell the difference."
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