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I'm still not convinced that programmers make a lot of money.

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2 years ago#91
From: wizardmon | #052
I live off 9.5K USD a year,


Where do you live? That makes a big difference. Some places are more expensive than others. For example, a friend of mine lives out in the Texas Panhandle and he can find an apartment much cheaper and in general live on much less money than I can.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/13poverty.cfm#thresholds

According to this, you're living below the poverty line.
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2 years ago#92
Erg0n posted...


You work with PLCs and Remotes/RTUs? I'm in SCADA and deal with that stuff


Yes, I deal with PLCs and RTUs. I think it's really cool to work with SCADA systems. They implement both controls and instrumentation together, not that PLCs don't but I have always wanted to work with SCADA systems. I'm pretty sure they are not too far from PLCs.
2 years ago#93
StealthfishWRX posted...
Erg0n posted...


You work with PLCs and Remotes/RTUs? I'm in SCADA and deal with that stuff


Yes, I deal with PLCs and RTUs. I think it's really cool to work with SCADA systems. They implement both controls and instrumentation together, not that PLCs don't but I have always wanted to work with SCADA systems. I'm pretty sure they are not too far from PLCs.


cool i'm on the vendor side of SCADA so I work with a lot of customers in the oil and gas but also in utilities and water industries. I don't specifically deal with PLCs I just got to make sure our software can communicate with them based on their protocol.

SCADA part is a really small industry and extremely specialized, everyone knows everyone here which can be a good thing or bad thing hahaha but it basically is a relaxed job considering most of our clients don't even touch the servers and we have customers who have systems for 15 years and dont want to upgrade because their current system is like a rock.
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2 years ago#94
...and that is why I think SCADAs are interesting.
2 years ago#95
MrMonkhouse posted...
I'm sorry but lets be realistic here... you're not gonna be making $100K out of college or even during your mid life doing coding. If that were the case, then everyone would just go on to do coding and we'd be seeing exotic cars everywhere.


You don't really understand.

First off, I don't know how you're going to buy exotic cars on 100k. I'm not sure you understand the value of money and what it costs to live.

Secondly, you're not able to distinguish between a "coder" and a software engineer. Those with a lot of experience don't "code." They take a problem and develop algorithms to solve that problem. The coding can be left to someone else, but it's largely irrelevant.

Then there's the whole software engineering process. Gathering requirements, interviews, specifications, documentation, etc. There's an entire process behind developing software. It seems like you think thousands of people just gather in a building from 8-5 and magically produce a working software product.

Someone with 5-10 years of experience can easily make 6 figures in the software industry. If they're lucky/skilled, they can make a whole lot more.
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