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How does EA benefit from Origin?

#41ShubPosted 2/14/2014 8:47:07 AM
Pokenub posted...
EA was voted America's worst company 2 times in a row for a reason..


A very stupid reason: Internet people (think Reddit and 4chan) banding together with no regard for voting for companies that are actually bad.
Big Wall Street institutions that contributed to creating the great recession of 2008 and literally destroyed people's lives?
Big food companies like Monsanto that operate with little oversight due to their powerful lobbying capabilities?
De Beers (ok, not a US company, but just a good example)?
ExxonMobil?
EA is a worse company than all of those, seriously?
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#42PraetorXynPosted 2/14/2014 9:23:53 AM
Shub posted...
Pokenub posted...
EA was voted America's worst company 2 times in a row for a reason..


A very stupid reason: Internet people (think Reddit and 4chan) banding together with no regard for voting for companies that are actually bad.
Big Wall Street institutions that contributed to creating the great recession of 2008 and literally destroyed people's lives?
Big food companies like Monsanto that operate with little oversight due to their powerful lobbying capabilities?
De Beers (ok, not a US company, but just a good example)?
ExxonMobil?
EA is a worse company than all of those, seriously?


No, but everyone knows all those companies are evil. If they won the golden poo award they'd just laugh in people's faces. EA won because it could actually hurt them.
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#43AsucaHayashiPosted 2/14/2014 9:31:55 AM
it's the reverse sales mentality.

10 copies sold@100% profit > 20+ copies sold@70% profit.
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#44TrueGBPosted 2/14/2014 9:49:15 AM
Last I heard, Origin brought in $100 million in revenue, but it's probably more like $200 million per year at this point (only 2 years into its life; information readily available everywhere). Nobody knows exactly what Steam earns because they aren't saying, but it's estimated to be around the $300 million mark, although some suggest it's upwards of $700 million with up to 80% of it being profit (PURE speculation, mind you).

Now, Origin could be more like Steam, but if EA sells 5 million copies of a $60 game, they match Steam's minimum speculated revenue with just one game. In other words, EA has absolutely no reason to be like Steam.
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#45GynthaeresPosted 2/14/2014 10:16:49 AM
PraetorXyn posted...
Shub posted...
Pokenub posted...
EA was voted America's worst company 2 times in a row for a reason..


A very stupid reason: Internet people (think Reddit and 4chan) banding together with no regard for voting for companies that are actually bad.
Big Wall Street institutions that contributed to creating the great recession of 2008 and literally destroyed people's lives?
Big food companies like Monsanto that operate with little oversight due to their powerful lobbying capabilities?
De Beers (ok, not a US company, but just a good example)?
ExxonMobil?
EA is a worse company than all of those, seriously?


No, but everyone knows all those companies are evil. If they won the golden poo award they'd just laugh in people's faces. EA won because it could actually hurt them.



Yeah, I posted something similar on a Reddit thread about this.

No one expects banks to be good. Everyone knows banks are evil, money-grubbing companies who ruin peoples' lives in exchange for money. A bank winning this award? Big deal, no surprise.
Similar kind of things with like, oil companies.

EA though? They're a company that makes video games. Things considered toys by a large portion of the population. How could a toy company be considered evil? Aren't they supposed to be pretty like, noble? Working towards people's entertainment?

Basically, on the Good-O-Meter, you'd expect banks to be a -5. You'd expect a video game company to be upwards of 10.
Bank of America? They're down at -10. EA? They're down at -4. A 5 point drop for BoA, a 14 point drop for EA. (Yes these are arbitrary numbers, but hopefully people get the point.)
That difference is why EA winning the award actually kind of makes sense vs. BP or BoA or whatever. EA could be great. It should be great. The fact that they're actually rather evil hurts, even if their evil isn't quite at the level of BoA.

Now there might be companies similar to EA, seemingly "good" companies that do really evil things. In that case, perhaps EA doesn't quite deserve to win, depending, but they're unfortunate enough to be attached to a medium that attaches itself really well to social media. Gamers talk about things like this a lot more than, say, chocolate enthusiasts might talk about how evil Nestle may be.
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#46godplaysSNESPosted 2/14/2014 10:23:47 AM
EA also has full control over Origin, no need to quarrel with Valve as they'd have to do with Steam
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#47clowningPosted 2/14/2014 11:00:42 AM
Gynthaeres posted...


Everyone knows banks are evil, money-grubbing companies who ruin peoples' lives in exchange for money.


Bank don't ruin anyone's lives. People ruin their own lives by making stupid choices. Banks just go along with them.

Maybe one day, in a place called neverland, people will stop blaming everyone else for their dumb choices.
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#48Erik212Posted 2/14/2014 11:06:35 AM
godplaysSNES posted...
EA also has full control over Origin, no need to quarrel with Valve as they'd have to do with Steam


Pretty much this. Why should someone as large as EA have to deal with using a competitor's platform? It just makes more sense to make your own at that size.
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#49AlleRacingPosted 2/14/2014 2:21:21 PM
Shub posted...
Pokenub posted...
EA was voted America's worst company 2 times in a row for a reason..


A very stupid reason: Internet people (think Reddit and 4chan) banding together with no regard for voting for companies that are actually bad.
Big Wall Street institutions that contributed to creating the great recession of 2008 and literally destroyed people's lives?
Big food companies like Monsanto that operate with little oversight due to their powerful lobbying capabilities?
De Beers (ok, not a US company, but just a good example)?
ExxonMobil?
EA is a worse company than all of those, seriously?


Reddit was gung ho for voting Bank of America in the finals of the last one, and they got all butthurt when EA beat them. 4chan voted for EA probably more to piss off the majority of Reddit (and other sites).

That said, most people already know those companies are bad, and voting them as the worst would likely do absolutely nothing to change them. While the same could be said for EA, their reputation is probably more susceptible to the outcome of an internet poll than the others they were competing against. That said, as far as destroying livelihoods, they aren't any where near as bad as those they were competing against, but they certainly have destroyed livelihoods. EA has a long track record of buying companies, then laying off the majority of the staff, replacing them, dividing the studio up, or initiating countless frivolous lawsuits to financially cripple their competitors and drive them out of business.
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#50DiviDudePosted 2/14/2014 2:27:04 PM
Erik212 posted...
godplaysSNES posted...
EA also has full control over Origin, no need to quarrel with Valve as they'd have to do with Steam


Pretty much this. Why should someone as large as EA have to deal with using a competitor's platform? It just makes more sense to make your own at that size.


You're speaking in far too reasonable terms, I fear. You need to start throwing around words like "evil", blaming Origin for crashing your HD, and generally making yourself out to be an absolute idiot.