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Should I upgrade from 4670K to a 4770K or 4790k?

#1NicodimusPosted 2/28/2014 10:31:25 AM
I do some gaming, but also some video editing and recently I've gotten heavy into RAW photo editing with Adobe Lightroom 5, and it chugs sometimes. I've done some research and it seems like RAM and GPU would not be an issue, but my CPU might be holding me back.

If you think I should upgrade, would I be better off getting the 4770K now or waiting a few months for the 4790K?
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#2KainstryderPosted 2/28/2014 10:34:39 AM
Overclock
#3Nicodimus(Topic Creator)Posted 2/28/2014 10:36:38 AM
I'm already overclocked @4.2 (the highest my chip will go without blue screen.)

Sorry, should have mentioned that.
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#4TheOtherGuyXPosted 2/28/2014 10:51:31 AM
A 4670k should not even remotely bottleneck you. I have the same cpu and it's a beast for just about everything. I'm also running mine at 4.2ghz though it could easily go higher, just don't find it necessary.

RAW editing is always going to crawl at times, since they're you know... RAW photos. An i7 may slightly help due to hyperthreading but ram is more important for that task. I've read plenty of people say the difference is negligable between the cpu's despite what you may read elsewhere regarding i7's. Check around Adobe's forum.

On the other hand, if you do lots of file compressing or video editing/encoding, then yes hyperthreading could make quite a difference and you'd want a 4770k.
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#5Nicodimus(Topic Creator)Posted 2/28/2014 11:07:58 AM
TheOtherGuyX posted...
A 4670k should not even remotely bottleneck you. I have the same cpu and it's a beast for just about everything. I'm also running mine at 4.2ghz though it could easily go higher, just don't find it necessary.

RAW editing is always going to crawl at times, since they're you know... RAW photos. An i7 may slightly help due to hyperthreading but ram is more important for that task. I've read plenty of people say the difference is negligable between the cpu's despite what you may read elsewhere regarding i7's. Check around Adobe's forum.

On the other hand, if you do lots of file compressing or video editing/encoding, then yes hyperthreading could make quite a difference and you'd want a 4770k.


Interesting. I've read elsewhere that Lightroom never uses much above 2GB of RAM, that it doesn't even touch the GPU, and that the CPU is where it's most demanding.

I do a good amount of 1080p/720p video editing and rendering, so I may still want to upgrade. I'm not sure if I'd be foolish to get the 4770K with the 4790K right around the corner. This isn't a decision that has to be made with any urgency, but I'm thinking it over. I also want to run Watch_Dogs smoothly @1440p (I may pick up a second GTX 770 as well.)
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#6Logical_OnePosted 2/28/2014 11:14:40 AM
Nicodimus posted...
I'm already overclocked .2 (the highest my chip will go without blue screen.)

Sorry, should have mentioned that.


4.2 is the highest your chip will go? I find that a little hard to believe. It should reach 4.0-4.2 without even changing the offset--once you want to pass 4.2 you will need to play with the values though.

What kind of cooler are you using?
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#7PsythikPosted 2/28/2014 11:16:15 AM
You already have one of the best chips you can get and it's overclocked. Any upgrade you do will give you minimal gains at best.
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#8Nicodimus(Topic Creator)Posted 2/28/2014 11:38:03 AM
Logical_One posted...
Nicodimus posted...
I'm already overclocked .2 (the highest my chip will go without blue screen.)

Sorry, should have mentioned that.


4.2 is the highest your chip will go? I find that a little hard to believe. It should reach 4.0-4.2 without even changing the offset--once you want to pass 4.2 you will need to play with the values though.

What kind of cooler are you using?
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I've taken it up to 4.6. After 30 minutes, blue screen. Backed it down slowly until no crashes happened, and that was at 4.2, so I left it there.

I have a 212 Evo on it.
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#9popping4itPosted 2/28/2014 11:57:44 AM
i have a 4670k too and i can only do 4.2ghz too :(

you have to increase voltage to get it any higher i think.

if you go into task manager, right click the task, set affinity, then unselect 2 cores and see how much worse it runs with only 2 cores to see if its your cpu thats bottlenecking.

HT is vastly overstated, its not going to make something that crawls to completely alleviated when you upgrade to i7.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/586/Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html#bench
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#10Nicodimus(Topic Creator)Posted 2/28/2014 12:01:08 PM
popping4it posted...
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/586/Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html#bench


Geez. That meager increase doesn't look like it's worth the $100-$150 difference I would have to pay for it, after selling my old CPU. I guess I will stick with this and get a new mobo and CPU in a couple of years.
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