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I need help comparing two pre-built PCs, please!

#1NykzaPosted 3/3/2014 11:40:02 AM
Heya, I'm from Germany and since my laptop is hitting almost 6 years so I'd like to ask for some help for choosing a computer.
Yeah, I'd love to build a PC but after taking the OS, taxes and shipping into account, I'd have to save up before getting it and I wouldn't be saving enough to warrant the ease of buying a pre-built computer.

In the end, I've got two options with these differences:
https://www.otto.de/p/acer-ag3-605_h-pc-intel-coretm-i5-8192-mb-ddr3-ram-1000-gb-speicher-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-397762585
1) 800
CPU: i5 4570 (3,2Ghz, quad core)
GPU: GTX 760 1.5 GB

https://www.otto.de/p/hyrican-cyber-gamer-4249-416108695
2) 660
CPU: Athlon II X4 750K (3,4 Ghz, quad core)
GPU: R9 270 2GB
Also comes with quite a few peripherals, they look decent.

The rest doesn't impact me much, I think. I'm buying it from Otto because I can pay in monthly rates without any fuss and they're close to me. If you happen to know a better place to buy stuff from which also allows monthly rates I'd love to know about them!

Uses: Standard school and surfing, gaming in (hopefully) 1080p.

So, is the 140 difference worth it in performance and is the 1.5 GB VRAM a significant loss compared to 2GB?

While I'm already at it, is this monitor a bad choice?
www.otto.de/p/asus-led-monitor-vh228de-396024099

Thanks in advance!
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#2Nykza(Topic Creator)Posted 3/3/2014 12:19:09 PM
Bump. Still need help and opinions.
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#3ShubPosted 3/3/2014 12:31:33 PM
The GTX 760 with 1.5 GB of RAM is only available to OEMs, it's normally a 2 GB card. I think it's kind of a corner-cutting cop-out since any decent gaming card these days should have 2 GB, but it is what it is... Still, I imagine it'll still perform much better than an R9 270. That, plus the Core i5 4570, is a much better build than that Athlon-based build. If you don't feel like spending 800 euros however, an Athlon build isn't a bad value, but I find it overpriced at 660 euros.
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#4PhilOnDezPosted 3/3/2014 12:31:50 PM
The first option has a much, much better processor, in USD it costs $100 more and it's worth that much more. It also has a stronger gpu but obviously the 1.5gb isn't ideal. At 1080p it should be fine though.

Personally, I'd go with the first. Either will do what you want to get out of them but for the games I tend to play (since you didn't mention any) the first will handle them much better based on the processor alone.
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#5Nykza(Topic Creator)Posted 3/3/2014 12:48:36 PM
Thanks for clarifying what that's all about, Shub! The 1.5GB part really threw me off, I didn't know if that could impact the performance.

I don't play anything at the settings I see benchmarkers use (BF4 @ ultra and similar), mainly things like MC, LoL, SC2, some MMOs, dark souls, but I'd still want the option of playing "modern" games on non-crap settings if I do get my hands on something.

The price is fine since I'm paying in monthly rates. In Europe computer parts seem more expensive than over there in America, probably due to extra taxes or something, iunno. I drool when I watch those "budget build" videos where it's like 300 when converting USD to Euro but when I put in any part picker it ends up at 450 or something equally crazy.

Sounds like the extra 140 is worth it then, thanks a lot!

I'm surprised you said "based on the processor alone" though, Phil. Is the X4 750K that low-end it would slow it that much? Isn't the GPU the thing that gives "life" to those games, providing that the CPU isn't bottlenecking it.
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#6ShubPosted 3/3/2014 12:52:54 PM
Things are more expensive in Europe because of VAT (USt. in Germany) and import duties. I come from Switzerland so I'm used to higher prices than where I live now (USA), but it's worse within the EU because VAT is so much higher outside of Switzerland.
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#7PhilOnDezPosted 3/3/2014 12:55:04 PM
The games you mentioned have a lot of overlap with the games I play so you definitely won't regret paying the extra for an i5. BF4, minecraft, mmos in general and especially (ESPECIALLY) Starcraft 2 will run twice (exaggeration, but not a big one) as well on the 4570 as they would on the Athlon.
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#8Nykza(Topic Creator)Posted 3/3/2014 1:13:59 PM
Ahh, that's the Mehrwertssteuer I think, yeah that's a huge chunk of "extra" money I don't have for now :d

Damn, that sounds really promising. Alrighty, I'm entirely convinced the 140 extra is worth it.

Thanks a lot! Both of you!
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