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Looking for a laptop.

#1ShuraYukihimePosted 3/5/2014 3:50:18 PM
I'm looking for a laptop. Not for gaming but for every day use. I need something small. Having an SSD would be preferable. I'm trying to stay around or under $700.

How does something like that compare to what is out there?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-yoga-ultrabook-2-in-1-11-6-touch-screen-laptop-4gb-memory-128gb-solid-state-drive-silver-gray/1835037.p?id=1219065985762&skuId=1835037

What (and where) should I be looking for (at)?

Again, gaming is not the focal point and any gaming done on the machine would likely be of the older or indie variety. But writing, web browsing, media, and so on would be the focus.
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#2DoramiPosted 3/5/2014 4:04:31 PM(edited)
That one has a premium for being convertible. It can be a nice feature if you're like me and use it as a tablet, but strictly as a laptop, it's not that great.

How small should it be, and do you expect to type a lot?
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#3ShuraYukihime(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2014 4:06:19 PM
Dorami posted...
That one has a premium for being convertible. It can be a nice feature if you're like me and use it as a tablet, but strictly as a laptop, it's not that great.


The folding nature of it is a turn off. However I can't seem to find other laptops that are smaller than twelve inch screens with an SSD.

Though I suppose the tablet function could be of use as my current tablet is very out dated.

Links to other laptops are certainly welcome.
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#4ShuraYukihime(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2014 4:07:50 PM
Dorami posted...
That one has a premium for being convertible. It can be a nice feature if you're like me and use it as a tablet, but strictly as a laptop, it's not that great.

How small should it be, and do you expect to type a lot?


It should be 12 inches or less. No number pad. I would type often but I am a terrible typist so the keyboard itself may not be a great factor.

The media factor would play a role. For watching movies, listening to music, YouTube, Twitch and all that jazz. (Though not just jazz of course.)
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#5DoramiPosted 3/5/2014 4:15:53 PM
Have you considered buying one with a HDD and doing an afyermarket SSD upgrade? That would widen your options considerably, as SSD is usually a premium feature.
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#6ShuraYukihime(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2014 4:18:05 PM
Dorami posted...
Have you considered buying one with a HDD and doing an afyermarket SSD upgrade? That would widen your options considerably, as SSD is usually a premium feature.


I have. However my DIY skills are questionable in the electronics arena. I removed my Xbox 360 HDD from it's case using a hammer for example.
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#7DoramiPosted 3/5/2014 6:30:33 PM
A cheap laptop with a SSD will be difficult to find, because SSDs are generally considered a premium component and thus is unlikely to be found in low end laptops.

A few options:
1. Buy a tablet with a keyboard dock. The storage of the tablet is usually a 32 GB or higher flash storage to conserve energy use and to make the unit more resistant to being roughly handled.
Examples:
Asus Transformer T100: http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T100TA-C1-GR-10-1-Inch-Detachable-Touchscreen/dp/B00FFJ0HUE
Dell Venue 10: http://www.dell.com/us/p/dell-venue-11-pro/pd
IdeaTab Miix 10: http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Miix-64GB-Keyboard-Bundle/dp/B00IAYFA8U

2. Buy a Chromebook. These often have 16-32 GB of flash storage. The OS will be severely limited compared to a full laptop, and installing Linux on it will be a pain.

3. Buy a used laptop. These can be an old netbook with Linux (which will be abusively slow) or just an old model that someone built with a SSD. If you do this, make sure you can do a clean install of the OS to wipe out any potential virus that the previous user left on the device.
Example:
Thinkpad X220: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-i5-2410M-2-3GHz-2GB-9-Cell-Webcam-HDMI-256GB-SSD-/400650689362

4. Do an aftermarket upgrade. It's really not that difficult. Some manufacturers provide manuals on how to remove the HDD and replace it. Check them to see if you are comfortable with doing it.
Examples:
Inspiron 11 3000: ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_inspiron_laptop/inspiron-11-3137_Owner%27s%20Manual_en-us.pdf
Yoga 2 11: http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_yoga_2_11_hmm.pdf

Given your requirement, the Inspiron 11 3000 with an aftermarket SSD upgrade is my most recommended laptop, but only if you are comfortable with the aftermarket upgrade.
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#8ShuraYukihime(Topic Creator)Posted 3/5/2014 6:50:01 PM
If I did however go with the one in my first link I wouldn't be getting "bent over" too badly would I? I feel I would actually use the tablet features available to me and I really do like that it has a touch screen.

I used to be very anti touch screen but since it has invaded all my other tech it feels sort of strange to not have it on the computer too.
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#9staticxtreme5Posted 3/5/2014 7:15:23 PM
ShuraYukihime posted...
If I did however go with the one in my first link I wouldn't be getting "bent over" too badly would I? I feel I would actually use the tablet features available to me and I really do like that it has a touch screen.

I used to be very anti touch screen but since it has invaded all my other tech it feels sort of strange to not have it on the computer too.


Nah, that's not a bad price. I checked Lenovo's website and that series sells for $1099+.

At the end of the day your the one that's gonna be using it. My advice is to go demo it in store if possible and make sure its what you want. If so, then pull the trigger. Don't let some internet forum dwellers try and get you to buy something else that's slightly cheaper but isn't what you want. The looks and aesthetics, build quality as well as features are all important when buying a product, not just the hardware underneath.
#10DoramiPosted 3/5/2014 8:01:14 PM(edited)
It's hard to compare the model you listed because:
1. Most full laptops start at 13", so there aren't many regular laptops at 11" to compare that to.

2. 11" laptops like that typically use an Atom or Celeron processor. This one has a full Haswell processor, though a very energy conservative one (The Y processor is 11.5W to the 15W of the U processors that's most common on Haswell laptops).

I would say you are paying about a $200 premium for it being convertible and including the SSD. Not that bad, but if you don't want to upgrade the SSD yourself, it's about as good as you'll get.

There's this one, which comes out to $710 if you configure it with a SSD, but that +$170 upgrade for a 128 GB SSD is a complete and utter ripoff.
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x131e-intel/

staticxtreme5 posted...
Nah, that's not a bad price. I checked Lenovo's website and that series sells for $1099+.

The one on Lenovo's website is an Ivy Bridge one. The one at Best Buy is Haswell. The BestBuy one is actually better, though the battery life improvement is not that significant from reports I've read.

Lenovo seems to have some weird deal with Best Buy where the same model is much more expensive on Lenovo's website than on Best Buy.

For example:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/yoga-2-2-in-1-11-6-touch-screen-laptop-4gb-memory-500gb-hard-drive/3297045.p?id=1219090034631&skuId=3297045&st=yoga%202%2011&cp=1&lp=2

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/yoga-2-11/
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