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Long time console guy, fed up with Xbox One and PS4 performance for price...

#11SinisterSlayPosted 3/12/2014 8:28:43 AM(edited)
rizzer posted...
Motherboard is Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
12gb total, DDR3-1066 triple channel, max memory bus bandwidth 25.31gbs

power supply, hmmm, I have a feeling when I built this machine in 2010 that it's fairly low power, like 550watts, at the time I was not building a gaming rig but a video editing rig

So is my ram gonna kill me in games? the whole xbox ddr3 vs ps4 ddr 5 I know is a hot topic


550 watt is plenty, grab a good card.
I think you can run a 770 on a 550 watt if its a good power supply.

And RAM speeds don't really effect framerate in PC games because the system RAM isn't used for graphics rendering (unless you use integrated graphics)
The consoles have what is basically laptop graphics. Integrated memory, the OS and the graphics use the same RAM so it needs to be as fast as possible.
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#12Snagg57Posted 3/12/2014 8:32:08 AM
I may not exactly know the entire debate between the console RAM debate, but im pretty sure it had to do something with how the RAM for the entire system was dedicated. For example, Lets say the Xbone has 8GB of RAM, 6GB is dedicated to games, the remaining is allocated elsewhere. But since the RAM is a single type of RAM is suffers performance issues.

With PC, since your 12GB of RAM is System RAM, it is independent of GPU RAM which stores the textures etc from the game. So as long as you grab a GPU with at least 2GB of video RAM, you should be good for a while.

and 12GB of RAM seems excessive, when I video render on my crappy laptop it only uses 2-3 GB of RAM, where does the rest of the RAM go to on your rig?
#13foodeater4Posted 3/12/2014 8:40:38 AM
TC, post what power supply you have.

IF the one you bought is a good one, youll be set with just a video card upgrade.
#14PhilOnDezPosted 3/12/2014 8:41:03 AM
Your laptop doesn't have 8 threads to work with. The more threads you have the more ram is utilized. I think the benchmark I looked at was a 3770 but the difference between 8 and 16 gigs of ram was about 30%, a pretty substantial boost.

The first gen i7s also utilized triple channel ram vs dual on sandy bridge onwards so his choice was 6GB or 12 if he wanted to use triple channel memory.
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#15farigontiPosted 3/12/2014 9:36:31 AM
550w is plenty for one good gpu. Get a 770+ for a solid experience.
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#16rizzer(Topic Creator)Posted 3/12/2014 12:45:02 PM(edited)
I built this PC in early 2010 for about $700 - Final specs are as follows:

- Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz OC'd @ 3.04Ghz
- 12gb DDR3-1066 triple channel, max memory bus bandwidth 25.31gbs
- 4 500gb HDDs in Raid 0 plus additional 2tb HDD
- Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Motherboard
- COOLMAX CTI-700B 700W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

The video card is not mentioned because that is being replaced. For a 4 year old PC where is my weakness above and do I want to do SLI?

Again, my wants are 1080p res for my 1080p HDTV, 60fps when possible and ZERO jaggies (the bane of gaming, I fricken hate jaggies!)

What are my best video card options. I want the most bang for the buck, I don't buy the best if second best is half the price kind of thing :)

Thx!
#17SinisterSlayPosted 3/12/2014 12:45:47 PM
rizzer posted...
I built this PC in early 2010 for about $700 - Final specs are as follows:

- Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz OC'd @ 3.04Ghz
- 12gb DDR3-1066 triple channel, max memory bus bandwidth 25.31gbs
- 4 500gb HDDs in Raid 0 plus additional 2tb HDD
- Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Motherboard
- COOLMAX CTI-700B 700W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

The video card is not mentioned because that is being replaced. For a 4 year old PC where is my weakness above and do I want to do SLI?

Again, my wants are 1080p res for my 1080p HDTV, 60fps when possible and ZERO jaggies (the bane of gaming, I fricken hate jaggies!)

What are my best video card options. I want the most bang for the buck, I don't buy the best if second best is half the price kind of thing :)

Thx!


SLI 780ti's
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#18r0ge00Posted 3/12/2014 12:50:44 PM
Your PSU isn't very ideal, but it should be able to supply the needed power for a GTX 770 or R9 280X. They're about even performance wise and should play most games on high-ultra. If you wanted to replace the PSU, I think the EVGA 500B is on sale right now on NCIX and would power those cards pretty easily.
#19ClouddxPosted 3/12/2014 12:52:26 PM
rizzer posted...
I built this PC in early 2010 for about $700 - Final specs are as follows:

- Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz OC'd @ 3.04Ghz
- 12gb DDR3-1066 triple channel, max memory bus bandwidth 25.31gbs
- 4 500gb HDDs in Raid 0 plus additional 2tb HDD
- Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Motherboard
- COOLMAX CTI-700B 700W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

The video card is not mentioned because that is being replaced. For a 4 year old PC where is my weakness above and do I want to do SLI?

Again, my wants are 1080p res for my 1080p HDTV, 60fps when possible and ZERO jaggies (the bane of gaming, I fricken hate jaggies!)

What are my best video card options. I want the most bang for the buck, I don't buy the best if second best is half the price kind of thing :)

Thx!


I have almost the same specs as you and a 770 was the way to go for me.
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#20SonyHoundDawgPosted 3/12/2014 12:55:38 PM
Depending on budget go for the gtx 760 or gtx 770. Don't bother with the AMD cards right now, they are mostly over priced.