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Microsoft praises Valve, vows 'renewed focus' on PC games

#31ZeroRaiderPosted 3/25/2014 12:48:19 AM
Microsoft could be serious this time.

Linux, OpenGL and SteamOS are growing threats. DirectX is becoming less relevant and mobile is threatening to take away most of Windows' consumer userbase and turn it into a strictly enterprise-based OS. As long as Microsoft allows Valve to be the de facto leader of PC gaming they risk Valve using their considerable influence to drive gamers away from Windows to SteamOS.

For the first time Microsoft is in serious jeopardy when it comes to Windows dominating the PC gaming scene. The Xbox One isn't doing so hot and PC gaming grows bigger every year. That's a huge chunk of revenue to risk losing market share to Linux or Apple.

The smartest thing Microsoft could do is simultaneous releases of all their Xbox One titles for PC as well using only DirectX. The more DirectX exclusives there are, the greater the shield against OpenGL and other operating systems becoming feasible for PC gaming Microsoft has.

Whether someone is buying their games for an Xbone or for their Windows PC it's money in Microsoft's pocket and increased influence over PCs or consoles.
#32MacrossSpecialPosted 3/25/2014 11:27:09 AM
ZeroRaider posted...
Microsoft could be serious this time.

Linux, OpenGL and SteamOS are growing threats. DirectX is becoming less relevant and mobile is threatening to take away most of Windows' consumer userbase and turn it into a strictly enterprise-based OS. As long as Microsoft allows Valve to be the de facto leader of PC gaming they risk Valve using their considerable influence to drive gamers away from Windows to SteamOS.

For the first time Microsoft is in serious jeopardy when it comes to Windows dominating the PC gaming scene. The Xbox One isn't doing so hot and PC gaming grows bigger every year. That's a huge chunk of revenue to risk losing market share to Linux or Apple.

The smartest thing Microsoft could do is simultaneous releases of all their Xbox One titles for PC as well using only DirectX. The more DirectX exclusives there are, the greater the shield against OpenGL and other operating systems becoming feasible for PC gaming Microsoft has.

Whether someone is buying their games for an Xbone or for their Windows PC it's money in Microsoft's pocket and increased influence over PCs or consoles.


Nice analysis

This post would be just as at home on forbes as it is here on gfaqs
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#33KillerTrufflePosted 3/25/2014 11:29:41 AM
I wouldn't object if Microsoft is serious this time... but based on their history, it's really just hard to believe them. At this point, my take is I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm basically expecting nothing from them, as usual.
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#34El MagnificoPosted 3/25/2014 11:39:39 AM
KillerTruffle posted...
I wouldn't object if Microsoft is serious this time... but based on their history, it's really just hard to believe them. At this point, my take is I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm basically expecting nothing from them, as usual.


I think they're serious this time, but probably not in the way that you think. I see them pushing the Windows Store. We'll see more PC games, but they're the designed for mobile kind of PC games like that Halo Spartan Assault game. That's how I see Microsoft getting serious about PC gaming.
#35KillerTrufflePosted 3/25/2014 11:44:17 AM
I see them pushing the Windows Store too - only because I have Windows 8 and they do their best to make it prominent there.

If they keep focusing on that as well as mobile, yeah, that's pretty much in line with what I'd expect from them - which really is NOT renewing their dedication to PC gaming.
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#36dragon504Posted 3/25/2014 11:46:58 AM
jessica73 posted...
Thanks ms, gimmie fable 2 on pc finally as way of apology


Or, they give us a good game.
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#37ThePCElitistPosted 3/25/2014 11:52:55 AM
Cool_Dude667 posted...
Stolen from neogaf:

2005 - We care about PC gaming, Longhorn (Vista) to usher in modern PC gaming with "Tray and Play"
Vista launches with none of the stuff MS promised, Vista itself sucks the ass of a thousand camels.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-talks-pc-gaming-longhorn-64-bit-and-xna-updates/1100-6120176/

2006 - MS: Don't Count PC Games Out
MS announces GFWL and how utterly amazing it will be, suckers everywhere rejoice in the eventual ass reaming they don't know is coming yet.
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/687/687828p1.html

2007 - MS continues PC push
MS launches GFWL...and it has a $50 a year fee, and they announce a whole slew of games to include Shadowrun with cross platform play and Gears of War 1! What are you paying for you ask? Jank ass software that crashes and has the most unintuitive updating system known to man. Load a game, game says you need update. Signs you out, downloads update, you jump back in...oh GFWL client has a update too! signs you out, downloads up date and you log back in...
http://www.edge-online.com/news/e3-microsoft-continues-pc-gaming-push/

MS will shortly thereafter disband Ensemble because MS feels that they're (MS) moving in a different direction! But don't worry we tots <3 you PC gamers.

2008 - MS: PC gaming is A-okay
Yea we've looked at some money pie charts and can see that PC gaming brings in billions in revenue. Here is our open letter to how awesome PC gaming is and our promise to support it! We finally put some new titles up on GFWL! Oh and we got rid of the $50 a year fee for GFWL, see we're serious about PC gaming! If that's not a sign of commitment, I don't know what is!
http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-pc-gaming-ok/

2008 - MS: PC gaming is not dead!
Look at this event we're throwing for PC gaming, you think we'd throw this if we didn't truly care about it?! Look at these games that will be on GFWL. We <3 PC gaming. You want fixes for GFWL issues? We'll look into that.
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/686531/microsoft-pc-gaming-is-not-dead/


2008 - MS bolsters PC gaming with all new Games for Windows Live!
Hey gaiz remember those GFWL client issues you were having...well we didn't fix those per say but....here is the same s*** in a slightly newer skin! PROGRESS
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2008/11/microsoft-bolsters-pc-gaming-with-new-games-for-windows-live/

2009 - MS: PC gaming still a priority for us!
Okay gaiz look, this time we're serious about our upcoming push in PC gaming. It's so vital to us at MS that we give the PC our love and support!
http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-pc-gaming-still-priority/


They barebones support pc gaming because it's a threat that undercuts their bread and butter. The xbox division.
#38KillerTrufflePosted 3/25/2014 11:55:50 AM
Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing a real, proper sequel to MechWarrior. Mech4 Mercenaries was awesome... and with games likeTitanfall and Hawken putting mechs back in people's minds (along with movies like Pacific Rim), a proper MechWarrior game would be pretty cool. It would have to be sim-style tho - not the newer tendency toward fast action stuff these days.
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#39LoshadtPosted 3/25/2014 12:50:02 PM
KillerTruffle posted...
I wouldn't object if Microsoft is serious this time... but based on their history, it's really just hard to believe them. At this point, my take is I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm basically expecting nothing from them, as usual.


My problem with Microsoft being serious about it this time is that Microsoft is very much anti-consumer. It's my belief that if they ever get a strong foothold in the PC gaming scene that they will pull another GFWL and try to get us to pay for basic features. Not they they WILL get us to, but in the long run I really think they're nothing but a bad thing for us.

The best thing they can do for PC gaming is to port over more games, outside of that they should keep their hands off.
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#40AsellusPosted 3/25/2014 2:05:20 PM
As long as Microsoft allows Valve to be the de facto leader of PC gaming they risk Valve using their considerable influence to drive gamers away from Windows to SteamOS.

Microsoft does have a fundamental conflict of interest with supporting pc gaming and promoting their X-Boxes - on the one hand they get more direct benefit from people buying X-Boxes, paying software licensing fees on said games, buying Live subscriptions, etc. On the other they're aware that their inaction has allowed Steam to dominate a market that could easily have been theirs and which would further cemented Windows' dominance... which is why I *kind of* think they might be serious this time. Kind of.

The smartest thing Microsoft could do is simultaneous releases of all their Xbox One titles for PC as well using only DirectX. The more DirectX exclusives there are, the greater the shield against OpenGL and other operating systems becoming feasible for PC gaming Microsoft has.

The thing is though there's never really be anything stopping Microsoft from say porting slightly-older first/second party X-Box games and sticking them on the GFWL Marketplace. Anyone who hasn't bought "Fable 2" by the point the third game came out isn't going to buy an X-Box because of it and it would have given them a ready supply of exclusive games to justify both store and service with.