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KickStarter, supporters of Occulus Rift. Demanding Refund

#21Skul_Posted 3/26/2014 5:42:09 PM
SilentHawk29 posted...
The project creators are legally obligated to follow through with the original design.

https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter

Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?

Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.


Yes, they have to fufill all the rewards. They did. The rewards were devkits which were sent out. It sucks that they were bought by facebook, and it means that its very unlikely i will buy one, but they do not owe any refunds to anyone.
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#22johnny_payPosted 3/26/2014 5:47:26 PM
people have no idea if facebook will change the idea of the project. facebook have bought up alot of companies for the patents so they dont get sued by patent trolls, alot of tech companies do this.
#23AngurvadalPosted 3/26/2014 5:48:01 PM
It's hard not to be sympathetic. They obviously aren't entitled to a refund. But I think they have the right to be mad.

The only Kickstarter I've backed is Double Fine Adventure, and I know I'd get mad if they announced that EA bought Double Fine during the game's development.
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#24Mr_DelcroixPosted 3/26/2014 6:21:58 PM
xcmon3yx2 posted...
http://kotaku.com/oculus-kickstarter-backers-are-demanding-refunds-1552041702?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow


>Kotaku

Please, for the love of all that is good and righteous in this awful world, never, EVER visit nor share their website ever again.

Ever.

Please.
#25clowningPosted 3/26/2014 6:34:00 PM
Well...you can't get a refund on a donation.

The original OR project owners would have to be sued, not FB. Kickstarter projects are unstable, and anything can happen. If the owners are sued, they just have to file Ch 7 and no one gets anything, or they can file Ch 7 in advance.

This is an example of why you should never donate money to a business or project. They donated their money and have therefore no control over the project, product development, how their money is used, etc. If they are unhappy, they only have themselves to blame. They have no stake in the business.
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#26koujimorenoPosted 3/26/2014 6:41:34 PM
And just like that...nobody gives to kickstarting projects for fear of this happening again...
#27aaron1111Posted 3/26/2014 6:44:39 PM(edited)
clowning posted...

This is an example of why you should never donate money to a business or pro


Yeah I can see lawsuits coming. But they will be against OR not Facebook.

Not sure if they can win though, if I was OR though I'd give the people a consumer version or money back.

Don't know if Kickstarter will join the backers or not. If not they probably won't get anything back legally.
#28arleasPosted 3/26/2014 6:50:53 PM
Other than the posted rewards from the Kickstarter, Oculus Rift owes them nothing. If there was some kind of binding contract that stated they couldn't sell to the highest bidder after the rewards were delivered, they MIGHT have a case.

I fully understand why they're upset. I didn't back it and *I* am upset, but they're wasting their time if they think they're going to get anything out of a lawsuit.
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#29ArkonBladePosted 3/26/2014 6:52:00 PM
They paid for a Occulus Rift and they got a Occulus Rift.

I don't see a just reason for a refund.
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#30Cowboy082288Posted 3/26/2014 6:53:32 PM
This is silly. The people that owned the company decided to sale it to facebook. The people that gave money on kickstarter don't own the company so they get no say in this decision.

Also the kickstarter thing was to raise money in order to build the oculus rift. They did build it, so they fulfilled that promise. Donating money on kickstarter does not give people any say on running the company.

I would like to see a kickstarter where you are actually INVESTING in a company......... o wait, that is called TD Ameritrade.
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