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Probably a weird question but...anyway to output a GTX 770 to an S-video CRT TV?

#31OTACON120(Moderator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:34:26 PM
wheepitup posted...
Making a copy of the ps2 bios is not illegal, again you have no clue what you are talking about. Again, nothing illegal was mentioned.

What part of "archival only" do you not understand? No, making copies of the BIOS is not illegal, you are correct.

It's using said copy in an emulator (and thus making it no longer an "archival" copy) that is illegal.
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#32thatfool12GsPosted 4/13/2014 12:35:17 PM
Or maybe use the settings in the emulator to simulate the old CRT look?
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#33-CJF-Posted 4/13/2014 12:36:06 PM
I think you are taking that passage too literally. You're obviously allowed to use the backups or there would be no point n creating them to begin with. You could argue you can't use your PS2 and the backup at the same time, or that only the person who owns the PS2 could use the backup.
#34wheepitup(Topic Creator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:36:38 PM
OTACON120 posted...
wheepitup posted...
Making a copy of the ps2 bios is not illegal, again you have no clue what you are talking about. Again, nothing illegal was mentioned.

What part of "archival only" do you not understand? No, making copies of the BIOS is not illegal, you are correct.

It's using said copy in an emulator (and thus making it no longer an "archival" copy) that is illegal.


There's zero point of making an archive if you cannot make use of it, especially when the whole point of an archive copy is to use it in case the original fails, or use in place of the original if you don't wanna damage the original. Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.
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#35wheepitup(Topic Creator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:38:20 PM
-CJF- posted...
I think you are taking that passage too literally. You're obviously allowed to use the backups or there would be no point n creating them to begin with. You could argue you can't use your PS2 and the backup at the same time, or that only the person who owns the PS2 could use the backup.


Not to mention i didnt mention wanting or needing PS2 bios, nor did i provide links to illegal bios, simply saying something exists (like PCSX2) is not illegal, it's just stating a fact. Gamefaqs moderators are neckbeards on a power trip, I bet Otacon has something illegal on his PC hdd.
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#36wheepitup(Topic Creator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:46:12 PM
And yea, you are a disgrace to the Otacon name, do you think OTacon gives a f*** about the legalities of software and their use? He's a freakin hacker for god's sake. So yes, you using his name and being a good little legality sheep is so hypocritical.

And guess what? Sony doesn't give a damn if you use your bios to play PS2 emulation, or they would've shut down the PCSX2 project long ago. The moralist fools at gamefaqs are the only ones who give a f***
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#37OTACON120(Moderator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:48:38 PM(edited)
-CJF- posted...
I think you are taking that passage too literally. You're obviously allowed to use the backups or there would be no point n creating them to begin with. You could argue you can't use your PS2 and the backup at the same time, or that only the person who owns the PS2 could use the backup.

I was speaking under the implied assumption that this copy is being used while owning a currently working legitimate copy of said software. If you own a working, legitimate piece of the software, then why would you need to use said backup copy? You wouldn't, which is why it doesn't matter what the use of an archival copy is; if you have a working legal copy, then using the archival copy is completely unnecessary except for illegal purposes (such as using it in an emulator).

wheepitup posted...
There's zero point of making an archive if you cannot make use of it, especially when the whole point of an archive copy is to use it in case the original fails, or use in place of the original if you don't wanna damage the original.

See above.

wheepitup posted...
simply saying something exists (like PCSX2) is not illegal, it's just stating a fact.

But that's not what you said, is it? You were discussing your active use of the emulator (which, again, is not legally usable without an illegal copy of copyrighted software).

wheepitup posted...
And yea, you are a disgrace to the Otacon name, do you think OTacon gives a f*** about the legalities of software and their use? He's a freakin hacker for god's sake. So yes, you using his name and being a good little legality sheep is so hypocritical.

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wheepitup posted...
And guess what? Sony doesn't give a damn if you use your bios to play PS2 emulation, or they would've shut down the PCSX2 project long ago. The moralist fools at gamefaqs are the only ones who give a f***

Or -- and get ready for this -- they've got no grounds to shut it down because they don't distribute anything illegal or do anything illegal themselves.
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#38wheepitup(Topic Creator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:50:15 PM
And you still fail to understand that archive does not in any way, shape, or form mean that it's something you cannot use. You are making that assumption to support your moderator buddy's stupid moderation decision.

Do you think library archives are never made use of? They just sit there being unused? The word archive does not mean something that is meant to be unused.


ar·chive
[ahr-kahyv] Show IPA
noun
1.
Usually, archives. documents or records relating to the activities, business dealings, etc., of a person, family, corporation, association, community, or nation.
2.
archives, a place where public records or other historical documents are kept.
3.
any extensive record or collection of data: The encyclopedia is an archive of world history. The experience was sealed in the archive of her memory.
4.
Digital Technology .
a.
a long-term storage device, as a disk or magnetic tape, or a computer directory or folder that contains copies of files for backup or future reference.
b.
a collection of digital data stored in this way.
c.
a computer file containing one or more compressed files.
d.
a collection of information permanently stored on the Internet: The magazine has its entire archive online, from 1923 to the present.
verb (used with object), ar·chived, ar·chiv·ing.
5.
to place or store in an archive: to vote on archiving the city's historic documents.
6.
Digital Technology . to compress (computer files) and store them in a single file.


Archive only means a collection of things stored somewhere.
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#39OTACON120(Moderator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:52:35 PM
It's pretty clear that this discussion isn't going anywhere, so why don't you just wait for your appeal to go through and let the lead moderator (and administrator, if you disagree with the lead moderator's decision) handle this because obviously nothing I say to you is going to change the (incorrect) ideas you have on the legality of using copyrighted software in unauthorized ways.
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#40wheepitup(Topic Creator)Posted 4/13/2014 12:53:31 PM
Oh but according to you, it's illegal for a piece of software to exist that uses illegal means for it to run. They aren't shut down because they don't provide the bios (although that's part of it) but because the PCSX2 can be used with bios which you flash yourself (which is what i've done). Which is NOT ILLEGAL.

You can't twist the meaning of the word archive to fit your skewed point of view. Making a copy of software for an archive only means one thing, to store that file somewhere in a collection. This does not specifically state that you cannot make use of that archive.
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