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People love defending bad writing.

#21ShadowThaReaper(Topic Creator)Posted 4/14/2014 3:21:54 PM
ME2 retconned things like the Protheans, though. That's bad writing. The fact that it was filler also makes it bad, because it's irrelevant.
#22jake-sfPosted 4/14/2014 3:23:04 PM
There's different category of writting and good storytelling.

In the end, a game is more about the experience than the story, so the writing needs to be good but the overal story-telling need not be "incredible".

However, you can get to games like Mass Effect which just make you straight up cringe all the time and the only concepts to understand from every line is thrown in your face in the most obnoxious ways.

I think its just incredibly obvious how huge the difference is when the writters obviously tried to reach out some semblance of intelligence, and when games like Mass Effect just try to reach out to teenagers.
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#23ShadowThaReaper(Topic Creator)Posted 4/14/2014 3:24:23 PM
MGS2 wasn't particularly well-written with regards to dialog, but...

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#24GwendalPosted 4/14/2014 3:27:47 PM
jedinat posted...
Reverend_Wilson posted...
What's an example of good writing? Sorry if that's a dumb question; I'm not much of story buff.

It's not common at all in video games... I'd say Portal 1/2, and... older adventure games like The Secret of Monkey Island, Full Throttle...


Planescape: Torment is another commonly cited example of good writing in a video game. I don't have that much experience with them personally, but I've also seen things like Grim Fandango and the various Matsuno games (Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story) brought up.
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#25Combo MasterPosted 4/14/2014 5:37:03 PM
A lot of games have good writing and horrible plot. I will take crappy dialogue that doesn't make you have think about what exactly is going for an awesome plot you can care about any day.
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#26killkountPosted 4/14/2014 8:11:35 PM
SneakiestNeg posted...
Jade Empire and Homeworld. Mass Effect is not really about the writing: its about space, soundtrack and starships.


I bought Jade Empire years ago and still haven't even downloaded it on Steam yet. Shame on me...
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#27TheEntitledOnePosted 4/14/2014 8:25:52 PM
Think about how gamefaqs intellectuals despise Hollywood writing.

Now consider that video game writers are Hollywood rejects.

That is the state of storytelling in video games, poor yet hailed by core gamers.
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#28SinfullyvannilaPosted 4/14/2014 9:58:22 PM(edited)
We went from "You are not Saren." to a plot that was literally filler in Mass Effect 2, to Mass Effect 3's deus ex machina ass pull.


People need to learn what Deus Ex Machina means.

Hint-It hasn't been literal for centuries.
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#29EpicKingdom_Posted 4/14/2014 10:00:43 PM
ShadowThaReaper posted...
I liked Human Revolution, but I hope they don't run the Deus Ex franchise into the ground. People need to know when to stop.


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#30XialohPosted 4/14/2014 10:26:13 PM
I knew the OP would mention Mass Effect before I even came in here. The mad over ME3 shall be eternal, apparently.
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